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Date Registered: 11-2013
Location: Ravenshoe, QLD
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Your thoughts on cheap T30 shockies


Greetings all.

The time has come to replace all the original shockies in my 2002 Ti. I'm just after a standard to comfortable ride. Monroe on special from AutoBarn are about 600-700, Gabriel not on special from SuperCheap are the same.

Found a mob called SuzukiSuper on Ebay, selling from a warehouse in Sydney (2 Alexander St, Auburn,NSW), that do all four for $365, including postage. Have a three year warranty. Rang them, and the lady said that if they fail during the three years, you send the shockie to them, and if they agree it's failed, they send a replacement and reimburse your postage cost. Asked how many have come back, and she said they've been selling them for five years and not one has come back yet.

Seems the shockies are called Ultra King emoticon . They also sell KYB and Ultima. Gave me a price of 300+ for a set of KYB rear shockies, no front ones in stock.

Anyway, has anyone fitted the cheapies? Any dealings with the company? Suggestions on good cheap shockies?

Thanks in advance.



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Date Registered: 09-2008
Location: Gippsland
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Re: Your thoughts on cheap T30 shockies


I'm looking at getting a spring+shock pack from them.
Ultima shocks and King springs for a 30mm lift.

Doing my research and they appear to be 36S series Ultima shocks.
(EDIT - They are actually Chinese Ultra King shocks) (Exact reply was "Hi there,The brand of the shocks are Ultra King brand suit for :Nissan X-Trail T30 2.5L ST,TI &TI-L 4WD Station Wagon 10/01-10/07 Cheers Duza ")

The springs appear to be De-Rate front and rear raised King springs, designed for comfort.

From the OEM site, they talk the talk, but with my budget I'll just have to see if they walk the walk.

Will keep you posted.

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Date Registered: 07-2012
Location: S/E Melbourne
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I will be keen to hear about these too 600 for struts and springs is very cheap

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Date Registered: 09-2008
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Well my experience was mixed.
I got them in about 3 days to Vic from NSW

they neglected to include the strut boots.
I managed to find two compatible Gabriel strut boots locally and two, an hour and a half away.

A tremendous screwaround and extra $100

he sells boots for about $70 a pair.

They did however come with bump stops.

initially when I installed them, I thought the strut top mounts were creaking as we had blown off the teflon lubricant powder.

however this turned out to be the shaft rotating in the strut at the far ends of the steering travel.

they feel quite hard on small potholes and are not quite the "comfort" ride as advertised, however on the big stuff, you notice the extra travel.

make sure you get decent spring compressors, those king springs are quite hefty.

I'll post a few pics when I get a chance.
 I sit about level despite the fronts being a 20mm lift and the rears a 30 - but I have about 750kg of tools and equipment on board all the time.

CV joints are still at a comfortable position on the front despite the lift.

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Date Registered: 09-2008
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Pictures of my install for your interest:

my shocks were so far gone, I was sitting on the bump stops.
Last trip over Dargo-High plains road was hell on the exy.
Along wits a few 300m rolls of coax, and my entire workshop on board didn't help matters.

I have much to fix now.

I'll assume that everyone is able to pick the before and after shots - and if you are considering replacing shocks and springs, that you know what all this is.

I had experienced help, as this was a first for me.

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Date Registered: 11-2013
Location: Ravenshoe, QLD
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Thanks Dranoweb,
Excellent photos. I like the look of the Exy after the job.
Lifting mine is not an option as my elderly parents find the ride marginal as it is. Interesting to hear about the lack of boots. To me, they are simply part of the kit and should be there. They should refund you the $100.
Tends to put me off buying from them, especially as the AutoOne shop in Cairns quoted me $690 for a full set of four KYB shockies. I might just wait and save up the extra $$.
Once again, thanks for your info.
Jim

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Date Registered: 09-2008
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I called the shop, and got a heavily accented reply, who explained to me in broken english that the boots were not part of the kit.

I rechecked the ebay listing, and no mention of the boots was made.

they received neutral feedback from me as a result.

I don't tolerate this kind of shenanigan well.

(edit)
the King springs are the real deal though, and had full retail box.
They are well worth the dough, and are quality stuff.

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Date Registered: 11-2013
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Finally bit the bullet and bought four KYB Xcel-G struts from Auto One for $690.00.

BUT. . . be warned that they don't come with upper boots and bump stops. Generic ones would have cost an extra $120, but the guy at the shop told me they came with the struts, so gave them to me for half price when I told him they weren't included in the KYB boxes.

Make a big difference to the ride and handling, as you would expect. I'm very pleased with them.

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Date Registered: 09-2008
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Supercheap auto stock Gabriel boots and bump stops for about $25 each that should fit them.

Though I had to visit 3 different stores to get 4 boots.

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Date Registered: 10-2006
Location: Mona Vale, Sydney, AUSTRALIA
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It's ridiculous that NGK import the KYB struts without the corresponding bump stops and boots.
I've found plenty of UK suppliers which sell everthing by contacting members on the UK Xtrail forum and I'm looking at sourcing parts from there, depending on shipping costs. Currently with exchange rates, 4 corners of struts, bump stops and covers comes to just over AU$450

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