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Date Registered: 12-2011
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I spoke to a guy who installs driving lights and light bars as part of his business and in WA, technically light bars are following the same rules as driving lights. You need to have a pair of lights not a single bar.

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Date Registered: 07-2013
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I was looking at the latest catalouge from the major LED Automotive light supplier into Australia today, all their clearance lights, stop, tail, indicator lamps are now marked as ADR Compliant, not a single one of their LED lightbar's or spot or flood lights carried this tag, in fact they all stated for off road use only in Australia.

So in my humble opinion, if a major manufacturer is stating this, I'll take it as gospel that they don't comply. They wouldn't cover their asses like this on an Item that could be one of their hottest sellers if it were ADR compliant.

Sure it's a grey area and maybe the laws do need a major review, but until I see a LED bar with ADR compliance, I wont be fitting one, and I suggest you don't either, there are the ARB LED Intensity Floods/Spots available that are ADR compliant, so why risk breaking the law. Also it's like anything, early adopters pay more, I did, but surely if sales went up, prices would come down.

And just because you haven't be pulled over yet and fined or warned, doesn't make them legal!

So pony up and stop being tight asses, and buy the "ONLY" Legal ADR compliant LED Auxiliary Lights on the market, ARB LED Intensities.

I'll still call all you LED Lightbar users, the users of illegal equipment until you can 100% prove me wrong beyond a doubt with the relevant documents.

And hey, there are some really awesome legal auxiliary lights out there that are not LED's, but like anything in life you get what you pay for.
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Date Registered: 08-2011
Location: Lalor Park, NSW
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I've already proven that they are legal in QLD.
QLD Hot Fix

And proven how vague the rules are in Vic
Vic Rules

As for meeting ADR's my Narva driving lights come standard with 100W bulbs but only meet ADR's with 55W bulbs. So basically you are assuming that they are selling them in illegal form.
Narva 175

What you are saying is that because there is no specific ADR for ELD light bars they must be illegal unless someone like ARB whacks a sticker of there telling you otherwise. That's like saying ipods must have been illegal when they first came out unless of course Apple told us it's OK. Just because there is no specific rule doesn't make them automatically illegal.There is effectively no ADR for driving light bars yet. So they cannot be illegal.

As for the only details available. ADR 13

7.3. DRIVING LAMPS

7.3.1. Presence: Optional on motor vehicles. Prohibited on trailers.

7.3.2. Number:

7.3.2.1. Two or four.

7.3.2.2. To be used in conjunction with headlamps.

7.3.3. Arrangement:

           No individual specifications

7.3.4. Position:

7.3.4.1. In width no individual specifications.

7.3.4.2. In height: no individual specifications.

7.3.4.3. In length: at the front of the vehicle and fitted in such a way that the light
           emitted does not cause discomfort to the driver either directly or indirectly
           through the rear-view mirrors and/or other reflecting surfaces of the vehicle.

7.3.5. Geometric visibility:

           No individual specifications.

7.3.6. Orientation:

           Towards the front.

7.3.7. Electrical connections:

           The driving lamps must be able to be lighted only when the main-beam
           headlamps switch is in the “lamps on” position.

7.3.8. Tell tale: No requirement.

7.3.9. Others:

           The aggregate maximum intensity of the main-beam headlamps as specified
           in paragraph 6.1.9.1 of Appendix A, can be exceeded with the fitment and
           illumination of driving lamps. Driving lamps do not have to comply with ADR 46/….

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Date Registered: 10-2006
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quote:

AugustusXTrail wrote:
So pony up and stop being tight asses, and buy the "ONLY" Legal ADR compliant LED Auxiliary Lights on the market, ARB LED Intensities.

I'll still call all you LED Lightbar users, the users of illegal equipment until you can 100% prove me wrong beyond a doubt with the relevant documents.



Sorry but I don't feel like I want to have a nudge bar or bullbar on my Xtrail which is what I would need to mount some driving lights securely so for me an LED lightbar is more easily fitted either across the top of the front bumper or preferably to the front roofrack mounting points and switched separately with Highbeam so that they are used only for offroad purposes.

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Date Registered: 08-2012
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You can get something like this.

 http://www.hansaparts.com.au/online/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=181&search=bar

Expect road vibrations to make the light bounce. A decent nudge bar or a bullbar is what you should give serious consideration to.

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Date Registered: 01-2015
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Saw an interesting post on the Pat Callinan website re light bars. Seems the ADR rules will be changing soon.

http://www.mr4x4.com.au/4x4-news-light-bar-legalities-victoria/

Will state that if not paired that they must be centrally located and no more than 4 lights in total.

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Date Registered: 01-2015
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I just thought I would mention that I have placed an order for a Stedi 23" LED light bar for my Exxy.

I say this because I got overwhelmed when I started researching (both in stores and online) at the number of options available and the difference in price. I assume I am not the only one so hopefully my experience will be helpful emoticon.

Stedi seem to be gaining popularity as a cheaper alternative light bar and most reviews have come up positive. With a friend of mine recently installing one on his car and hearing his feedback I decided for $139, it was worth a gamble.

Will keep anyone who is interested posted on the result. I hope to have it installed within 2-3 weeks.

Cheers
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Date Registered: 05-2014
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quote:

KoroKoro wrote:

Saw an interesting post on the Pat Callinan website re light bars. Seems the ADR rules will be changing soon.

http://www.mr4x4.com.au/4x4-news-light-bar-legalities-victoria/

Will state that if not paired that they must be centrally located and no more than 4 lights in total.



Has been the case now for some months.

https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/safety-and-road-rules/vehicle-safety/fog-and-driving-lights




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Date Registered: 11-2010
Location: Sydney, NSW
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All this talk about the legality of LED lightbars is crazy.

I've just returned from a 10 week driving trip to Darwin and back. Nearly every 4WD has a LED Lightbar and uses it on the highway, as do every commercial vehicle (Coach, truck, road train etc) that I passed.

I would highly doubt that a reputable touring company, would legally put themselves at risk by installing a LED lightbar if it made that vehicle uninsured.

I use my lightbar all the time on the highway, especially in the outback. But the same theories apply to LED Light Bars as they do to use of High Beams. (ie dim them on approach to oncoming vehicle).


I love my LED Lightbar as I wired it into my factory fitted driving lights so it runs off the same rocker switch. My next phase is to install a 22 inch lightbar on the roof that is bolted to the roof rack. Can't wait !

Griz.

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Date Registered: 11-2010
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Just saw this link on Facebook regarding illegal placements of lightbars in WA.

http://candm.com.au/lightbars-banned-in-wa/

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