Revhead Kev
Date Registered: 10-2006
Location: Mona Vale, Sydney, AUSTRALIA
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Re: 6 Foot Track and Lowes Mount State Forest
Nice trip Todd. Would have loved to go along.
The 6ft track climb looked like there were a few tricky ruts in it.
Are you sure that Lowes Mount descent was actually a track. Didn't look travelled much.
Do you think Ian didn't get up the last hill mainly because of a lack of torque from the petrol engine compared to your diesel or do you think his oversized tyres might have had an effect ?
--- Kev X450(c) T30 Guru
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8/Jul/2013, 11:42 am
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Toddyh03
X-TRAIL HOLIC
Date Registered: 08-2011
Location: Lalor Park, NSW
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Re: 6 Foot Track and Lowes Mount State Forest
6 Foot Track was easy Kev. Those ruts were fairly small and provided you pick your line not a problem at all. There was one exit to the creek crossings that was a bit rocky and one entry that was a bit muddy but still very easy.
Ian's tyres are only 12mm bigger than mine. The issue was definitely lack of torque from the petrol engine. I crawled up at between 1500-2000rpm. Ian has only had his car for 8 months. I think with more experience he will get to know the car better and be able to get it up hills like that. Just learning where to keep the revs, how much wheel spin is too much (to the point where you lose momentum and speed) and things like that.
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8/Jul/2013, 11:54 am
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Revhead Kev
Date Registered: 10-2006
Location: Mona Vale, Sydney, AUSTRALIA
TOTAL POSTS: 6355
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Re: 6 Foot Track and Lowes Mount State Forest
quote: Toddyh03 wrote:
The issue was definitely lack of torque from the petrol engine. I crawled up at between 1500-2000rpm. Ian has only had his car for 8 months. I think with more experience he will get to know the car better and be able to get it up hills like that. Just learning where to keep the revs, how much wheel spin is too much (to the point where you lose momentum and speed) and things like that.
That's one thing an Auto helps with.
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8/Jul/2013, 2:45 pm
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Toddyh03
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Date Registered: 08-2011
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Re: 6 Foot Track and Lowes Mount State Forest
I'd like to see an auto do the same hill. I think if you stopped the engine would rev up but the torque converter wouldn't allow the wheels to move. Be very interesting to see how an auto would cope anyway.
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8/Jul/2013, 3:02 pm
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cooch t31
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Date Registered: 06-2008
Location: Blue Mountains, NSW
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Re:
It was a good little trip, wish I could have stayed for the Sunday, oh well next time.
Maybe a forum trip to see how the auto's tackle the steep hill.
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8/Jul/2013, 4:11 pm
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Toddyh03
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Date Registered: 08-2011
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Re: Re:
quote: cooch t31 wrote:
Maybe a forum trip to see how the auto's tackle the steep hill.
Feel free to organise it Tony. I won't be leading any trips for a while. My recommendation would be bash plates as a minimum requirement. Some of the exits to the creek crossings are a bit rocky.
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8/Jul/2013, 4:32 pm
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maxgmoore
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Date Registered: 11-2012
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Re: 6 Foot Track and Lowes Mount State Forest
great trip report mate. you always do a good write up
--- Cheers
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9/Jul/2013, 8:44 am
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Toddyh03
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Date Registered: 08-2011
Location: Lalor Park, NSW
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Re: 6 Foot Track and Lowes Mount State Forest
Just for anyone wondering I did a quick calc on the slope of 'Ians Hill' based on topo maps. It was around 35 degrees or 70% slope on average. Obviously there was some steeper sections.
To put that into perspective, the climb out of the Kowmung River towards Jenolan Caves on the Caves to Caves trip is around 20 degrees or 36% slope.
The steepest track on the Caves to Caves is definitely the climb out of Werong Creek on Middle Werong Fire Trail which is around 25 degrees on average or 46% slope (with steeper sections obviously).
I did the calcs on the Caves to Caves hills over the steepest sections only, whereas the calc on 'Ians Hill' was over the entire length. Should give you an idea as to just how steep it was.
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11/Jul/2013, 11:08 am
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