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" malibu91 "OK, so I made the mistake of driving an early model T31 CVT!

The idea of a T30 just went south, so I have arrived at the inevitable question.

Is there such a thing as an independent inspector (like the ones I highlighted above) who can give an expert opinion on the CVT as well as a report on the rest of the car.

I am looking at 2007-2009 T31's with roughly 110,000 - 165,000kms.

I'm also assuming the transmission should have had its service by now, and if it was to have any issues they would have sprung up by now?

Thanks again,
Jules



I had a MTA vehicle inspector give my X-Trail a going over before the extended warranty ran out a about 6 months ago. Was worth it from the report the dealer replaced a faulty air conditioning fan blower and did many other things. From memory the inspection cost me $250 .

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There are STILL low KM T30's out there if you have patience and are eagle eyed. You can have my X-trail if you are reconsidering looking for a T30. Be on the look out for a shiny sliver one that has 100,000 km on the clock along Parramatta Road soon!!!!

Jalalski - my X-trail had one of your aftermarket silver plastic T-30 scuff plates that you used to sell on the back.
It survived remarkably well - really well - better that the stainless steel Nissan scuff plate.
Don't let anyone say Jalalski sells X-trail rubbish!

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I forgot to add, the car I drove today had a slight whine, but was silent when coasting in neutral. Not sure if this helps, as not ever driving this transmission I had no idea what I was doing!



Sorry Jules, but the only advice I can give you regarding the T31 2007-2009 CVT X-Trails is that you must make sure the service history is fully upto date and you must check with Nissan to see if the transmission has been replaced at any stage of the life of the car. You will be on your own if the CVT fails again, as Nissan will walk away from it and you could potentially end-up with an $8,500 repair bill and a useless car.

I don't mean to scare you or anything like that but if you can add a bit more to your budget and look at T31s starting from 2010, you will be in a safer position.

I doubt any independent mechanic can really tell you there is anything wrong with the CVT, as most of them don't even know about the whine and the CVT problems owners have encountered. It is something that can happen at any minute even if the transmission was replaced.

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TungstenCarbide wrote:
Jalalski - my X-trail had one of your aftermarket silver plastic T-30 scuff plates that you used to sell on the back.
It survived remarkably well - really well - better that the stainless steel Nissan scuff plate.
Don't let anyone say Jalalski sells X-trail rubbish!



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I don't import rubbish, as what goes onto my cars has to be top class quality before it gets added to the online shop line-up emoticon

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Thanks again Jalal.

I don't think I can stretch to a 2010 unfortunately. I'll drive a handful before buying, and if the worst happens I have found that wreckers will supply CVT's for around 1,400 inc a six month warranty.

That's some comfort. I've re-read most of the incredible information on this site, and it appears from all owners who have experienced issues, very few seem to have actually failed (not that a rattly, noisy transmission would be much fun either).


Cheers
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Well, as an update I am now the very proud owner of a 2009 T31 ST in Pearl White!

Drives like new (126,000kms), and I had it thoroughly checked out by State Roads. The mechanic who inspected the car was quite knowledgeable about CVT transmissions. He even did a full diagnostic check and confirmed the computer had never thrown a warning error.

I was also pretty happy to secure it for 13k.

Only bummer is that it is due for the 120k service (only service it has missed). I believe that is a big one involving the CVT fluid.

Are there any opinions as to whether I should request a full flush rather than just a fluid change?

Also if this transmission ever does give me any grief, is it possible the newish consumer protection laws would extend to used cars bought privately?

Cheers
Jues

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Congrats Jules.

The Nissan dealership would know what to do when it comes to servicing the CVT and I strongly suggest you get that done at a Nissan dealership rather than an independent mechanic to have a written proof of the CVT service should anything go wrong with it in the future.

As to the consumer protection against future failures, it's possible but be prepared for a fight with Nissan Australia (check the CVT Transmission thread for such recent case).

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Oh believe me I have read that thread...all of it!

I was thinking of getting the CVT serviced separately by a Nissan dealer (either fluid change or full flush and replace) and then getting the 120,000km service done with a more reasonably priced workshop.

That way I could avoid the dealer costs, but still ensure the CVT has been maintained by the Dealer. Looking at fixed price servicing costs from Nissan, the 120,000k service is 555.10. That seems fairly steep?

I wonder if the existence of the extended coverage in the US by nissancare for CVT's would perhaps carry some weight over here in Australia. It is a bit of a precedent on Nissan's part.
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Sorry mate but this discussion is no longer relevant to the topic of this thread and has already been covered-off in the CVT thread you've been reading.

Simple answer is no, the US CVT warranty does not apply in Australia and Nissan Australia don't want to abide by it or admit that there is any defect with the CVT.

Nissan's price is reasonable given the time it takes to change the CVT fluid and the cost of the genuine Nissan fluid itself. At the end the decision is yours. My advice was given to you as you have bought a 2nd hand car and it is in your interest to have a Nissan document in hand proving the CVT service given its poor history and this would be a binding document should things go bad in the future with your CVT transmission.

The call is yours to make but don't expect an easy cooperation from Nissan Australia on the matter at all. In fact, expect the worst.

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