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Date Registered: 05-2013
Location: Sydney NBeaches
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Looking to buy Secondhand - what to check - what to avoid


I love this forum, I have been all over it in last couple of days after deciding our next family car is going to be a second hand Xtrail. We tested libertys / outbacks / foresters & CRV's and the Xtrail has come up #1 in terms of suiting our family of 2 young kids.

After searching the forum for info on 2nd hand cars and reading up on the differences between the I and II I have a couple of questions on the T30. Some of the info in the section on recalls worries me. Not so much the rusting fuel filler but moreso the issues with the cat. converter / O2 sensors degrading and being sucked into the engine.
I am interested in a 2003 model with 120,000kms but the owner has no knowledge of the 2 x recalls that affect his car (I have checked the VIN number range and this car is included). So Obviously no butterfly screws have been sucked into the engine or there would be obvious problems - But the cat. converter is a possiblility?
Would the recalls still be valid on this car 8 years after it was posted (2005)?
Is there a tell tale sign of engine problems from this IE(other than using more oil)?
Spark plug gaps? Visual inpection?
Should I be getting the car checked professionaly pre-purchase by Nissan friendly mechanic?

OR - am I better off avoiding all T30's pre 2005?

We are looking to spend up to 12k for a manual. Leather and sunroofs are nice but not neccesary. Any advice you guys could give us on our specific situation would be appreciated.


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Date Registered: 02-2004
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* Would the recalls still be valid on this car 8 years after it was posted (2005)? No!
* Is there a tell tale sign of engine problems from this IE(other than using more oil)?
 Spark plug gaps? Visual inpection? Loss of power is also a good indication that the engine has problems.
* Should I be getting the car checked professionaly pre-purchase by Nissan friendly mechanic? This advisable for any 2nd hand car purchase and msut be done indeed.

The cat converter issue/risk is present in all cars with a ceramic based catalutic converter, so while it is a risk, I wouldn't worry too much about it and you can always get rif of the ceramic cat. converter and replace it with a stainless steel core that lasts forever.

Replacing the 4 major sensors due to age is something that has to be done sooner or later, so this shouldn't stop you from buying the car if everything else is in good order.

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Thanks Jalalski,

So in manual versions - there is no benefit (nothing less problematic) between 2003/2004/2005/2006 models?

Would you say we are better off looking for lower km vehicles rather than the more recent year models in our price range?

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If you are planning on towing something heavy with your exy, then the clutch could have problems. Do a search for "T30 clutch issues"

I would look for one with less kms of course.

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Thanks, no plans for heavy towing.
So any mechanic should be able to check out the ceramic cat converter through the hole in the manifold?

And if it is broken up - should I avoid purchasing as there is a good chance fragments have been sucked into the engine?

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Yes indeed. Avoid it at all costs because you don't know how much pitting damage it would have caused to the cylinder walls.

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Thanks,
And i guess along the same lines....should I pay to get a compression test done on the engine?

I have found a 2003 model that looks pretty clean - however the engine has had oil sprayed thoughout it (due to oil cap being left off). The bolts etc look a little rusty which I wasn't really expecting and haven't seem in other cars of the is age.

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Why would the cap be left off? That sounds a little dodgy to me.

As for the compression test you can buy a small compression tester for less than $50. It's very easy to do the test. Remove the spark plug and screw the tester in. Turn the ignition key so the starter motor tries to kick over the engine but don't let is actually kick over. Take reading from the tester and move on to the next cylinder.

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Yes I know what you mean.
But the story is it was left off after topping up the oil emoticon

Thanks for the tip on the tester.
Is a bit of surface rust on bolts etc in the engine bay normal for these older models?
The car hasn't been 4wd-ing on beach etc....

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I wouldn't believe anything they tell you.

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