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Date Registered: 11-2012
Location: Broome
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i would be drawing with a 60L fridge most of the time but also i may get a 40L freezer but am unsure. will also be using an LED light strip.

really it melted a 12V plug. Was this while trying to charge a device or charge the arcpak?

http://arkcorp.com.au/t/Media i watched the 3rd video down and it seems to make the arcpak the best thing since sliced bread. are they that good?



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Date Registered: 08-2011
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My theory on the plug is that the charger must pull pretty close to 15A the whole time. That and the possibility that the plug was moving around in the socket. Either way we replaced it with a Narva plug and put an extra in line blade fuse in. As I said you would have to ask Michael if he is happy with it/if anything else went wrong with it.

In my opinion you are far better off installing a battery isolator, circuit breaker and proper gauge cable from the starter battery. Michael did the Arkpak thing so it could be easily moved from one car to another.

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Date Registered: 08-2012
Location: Canberra, ACT
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As Todd advised, the plug DID melt and blew the plug's 15A glass fuse as well. The charger is supposedly 5A @ 24v. If my maths is correct, thats 10A @ 12v = 120w at the socket. This is the limit of the Nissan rear socket.

The actual plug IMHO is very poor quality, as it wobbles out every so often. I think the reason mine 'fried' itself could be because I had a box up against it, to stop it vibrating out, which may have caused some sort of friction or what not... but regardless, for the price they're charging for the charger ($90; I got mine free), the quality is not very good. The narva plug that Todd was able to replace the melted plug with worked 100% and didn't fall out once. Also, not really happy that where the charger plugs into the ArkPak, its straight, so if any pressure is on the cable, it pops the plug out of the ArkPak. The 240v is an elbow plug so doesn't pop out as easily.

The charger is VERY slow as well, as its only 5A at 24v... I have a 105Ah battery which took AGES to charge up once down to 40-50%. The other thing that niggles me is you can pop out the plastic cover for the LCD and 12v plugs, which means wasted space

On the plus side, it is an easy solution between cars (3 in my case), the charger etc. is contained in the unit, as are the 2 x 12v sockets and the inverter + USB port. The inverter is a modified wave, not pure sine, but I just switched off my laptop and tablet when charging from the inverter, and no issues.

Wait till one of the camping or 4WD expos... i got mine for $400 for the ArkPak, 12v DC charger, quick release mounts... needed NRMA membership though

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Looks very nice. Saves me building something similar again.

Do you know what battery is in it?

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i like the fact that it is portable. i hear that charging with an anderson plug is faster than 12v. Have you heard this? Have you had any experience with solar power charging?

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Scaryann, there's no battery in the ArkPak... the ~$400 is just for the box and 240v charger. It will fit up to a 130Ah battery (and it'll be HEAVY!). It is nice having EVERYTHING built into one neat box.

Yep, it has an anderson plug, so if you have a dual battery isolator with an anderson in the boot, it'll charge up just fine (and much much quicker). Same as solar power charging, as long as you have a regulator/isolator, with an anderson on the end. The anderson method by-passes the 7 stage charger, so still advisable to keep it on 240v when not in use, to keep the charger 'pulsing' the battery.

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Hmm ok.
My current setup is a battery box with a decent dry cell that has terminal and 12V socket on the outside and a press button to check the charge level.
I connect my solar panel and regulator on it to charge it and when I want 240v I just clip the 600W inverter on it.

The leads are all of suitable lengths to run anywhere. Also the 12V compressor just clips onto it wherever it is.

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yeah... you wouldn't gain much from the Arkpak then

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Date Registered: 10-2010
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Max,

Re the solar panel - December last year I purchased a 120W folding solar panel, cables (Alligator; Anderson and Hella connectors & additional 5 metres of cable) and a 110Ah lead acid battery (no box) for around $600. I did look at the ArkPak, but at the time couldn't justify the over $400 cost just for the box.

I've used my set up twice: first time was in January where I spent a week at the Woodford Folk Festival in Queensland - set the panel up on the roof basket connected to battery with alligator clips and from the battery to the fridge with a hella connector. About 4 days in I realised that the battery in the exy was flat, due to music and opening/closing of doors I think, hooked the panel to the battery and after a few hours of trickle charging cranked the car over no problems. Only issue running the fridge was a couple of blown fuses in the hella connector for the fridge (35l Waeco), when connecting/disconnecting, I quickly learnt to either switch the fridge off or disconnect from the battery and no more problems.

Second time was Easter long weekend at the Deniliquin Blues n Roots festival - this time I left the fridge and battery in the car and ran the cable from the panel on the roof into the car through the back window - worked great. I didn't have the basket on this time so just laid the solar panel across the roof racks.

I have a Waeco Fridge power kit (RAPS12R-U2) fitted in the back which has a dual hella/ cigarette fitting that I plug the fridge into when travelling and have never had a problem with it. I have previously run the fridge for 8 hours without flattening the car battery, but after a couple of flat batteries during the Central Australia trip in 2011 have found that the solar panel and battery was a relatively cheap solution to the overnight and longer term power concerns.

A mate of mine has recently had a dual battery system fitted to his Prado and I think he said it cost him about $1200, but due to the lack of flexibility he is also talking about getting an ArkPak so that he has a portable option.

I also have a small 40Ah battery pack, which I can charge during the day while travelling using the cigarette fitting in the Waeco power kit, while at the same time having the Fridge plugged in the hella and I then connect the Fridge to it overnight, but depending on weather conditions and how long I'm stopped this is usually only enough for a single night stop. The biggest issue I've found with the battery and battery pack is the weight, but I think that is outweighed by the portability, especially when camping in areas where, due to barriers, camp needs to be a distance from the car and you can still have your fridge beside your chair!

Allan



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Date Registered: 12-2010
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Well I went ahead and purchased the Arkpak from BCF on Tuesday. It was on special for $399.00.
I also purchased the DC/DC charger which was listed as $99.00 but as I had a $20.00 voucher from a carton of xxxx Gold it brought total cost down to $478.00.
I have ordered a 130AH battery from a local Batteries Direct outlet and discounted is $320.00.
(the rrp is $349 + GST). I pick battery up on Monday.
I still intend to eventually run twin 6b&s cable from engine bay to rear and with a battery isolator & fuse in engine bay and an Anderson plug in rear I will be set up hopefully for most requirements. I also have a 600Watt pure sine wave inverter previously purchased last year.

Anyway, the wiring from front to rear appears to be a bit daunting so I will ponder my options.....pay someone or take the plunge myself.

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