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Date Registered: 09-2012
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Bribie Island – 2nd frustrated attempt


Hi guys. I very new to 4WDriving and to the forum as well, but I reckon this is the correct place for my post.

Last weekend I had my first 4WD experience. I tried the Bribie Island track towards the beach. I was totally unprepared, did not deflate my tyres , without any recovery tools and experience. To get worse, took my wife and 2 years old boy with me. I got stuck after 2km on the track; I consider myself lucky as just 5 minutes after that another car showed up the pulled us out. As we were pretty close to the entry of the park I managed to go back without further dramas.

Getting home I decided to learn more about 4WD and X-trail. I joined the forum and started to look for info on the net. I found heaps and decided that was time for another try. This time I was by myself, deflated the tyres to 18psi, bought a recovery track and shovel, and lots of online 4WD study. I got to the park around 7am today. It’s around 20km until the beach. The first 10km were alright, I managed to go through some soft sand areas with no major dramas, after that the car struggled to move and I almost got stuck twice. I remembered what I’ve learnt online and stop before getting stuck, reverse the car a bit, then speeded up to get some momentum. That worked well! Just 5km away from the beach I faced a really soft sand area. I would say powder sand. I couldn’t do it and got stuck. I tried for 1 hour with my shovel and recovery tracks (I don’t know if that thing works). As I didn’t manage to get out by myself I had nothing to do but sit down and wait for a good person to drive pass and rescue my. It took a while but someone showed up and helped me out.

I decided to go back home as I would have 15km more on my way back to practice and my wife was waiting for me to have lunch. I thought because I just had done all the way to get there with no problems that I would be able to do it again. That was a mistake. 2km after getting out of my first trouble I got stuck again. Once more the recovery track didn’t work, and I had to way for another good person to pull me out. This time I didn’t have to way too long. Someone showed up and snatched me out by reversing the X-trail (my car doesn’t have a tow spot in the front). After getting out I tried to go through the sand but got stock again. Second attempt and I wasn’t better than the first time. So we tied up a rope in the front bar (I know it’s not recommended but what else could I do?) and he pulled my out from the sand. Just in case, we went like this all the way through until the road. I reckon I would have got stuck once more if not for him.

It’s been around 3 month since the last rain in Bribie, the sand was very soft. But I’m not sure if X-trail is reliable to this sort of trip. I saw other 4WDs over there none of them with problems. I know that I’m still inexperienced and certainly I contributed to create the problem, but the car has its deficiencies, as I think it’s too low and struggle to follow ruts created by bigger cars. The times I got stuck I dug lots of sand out until the tyres were not covered by sand at all, but they were not in contact to the ground properly as underneath the car the sand was holding it up.

The car I’m driving it’s a company’s car. I’m not sure yet but I think I have to by a Navara or Patrol to make my weekend stroll more reliable without having the risk of getting stuck in the middle of nowhere with my family in the car.

What do you guys reckon?


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Date Registered: 01-2009
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1st there is a towing hook that you screw into the front of the bumper, you need to take off the small square cover off, it can be used with caution for front recoveries, recovering from the rear is best, especially with tow bar fitted, then try letting down your tyres even further around 15-12 psi, make sure your ESP button is off and dont drive in a too low a gear, my experience is that it just diggs deeper into the sand.
What type of recovery track were you using?


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I don't know a thing about Bribie Island but based my experience on Stockton and other NSW beaches I can offer you the following advice:
1. Go out again with someone who is experienced and get them to help you set the car up for sand driving and if possible sit next to you while you drive.
2. 18psi is too high for soft sand. When you keep getting stuck like that, lower the pressure further. Don't go lower than about 12psi and remember the lower you go the wider you should take corners so you don't run the tyres off the rims.
3. when you get stuck don't dig around the tyres. Dig in front of or behind the tyres but not around. Due to the low clearance on the X-trail chances are if you get stuck, the car will be resting on it's belly. You need to dig under the car to get out (this is why people carry long handle shovels).

Other than that just get out there and have a go. You will learn more about the vehicles capabilities every time you get out and as your experience increases you will find it easier to drive on soft sand successfully.

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I think the biggest point to take is if you are inexperienced in 4WDriving, don't go by yourself.
Keep an eye on the forum outings and make time to join in them, this is where you will learn invaluable information.
4WD courses are OK but you will learn a lot more in real time situations as you have just discovered.

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I’ve been keeping an eye on the forum to find out when people will get off road. Hopefully I’ll be able to go with them.

Jupitor 2

I was driving in 2nd gear. I was at the track that leads to the beach. 3rd gear wasn’t possible, lot of bumps on the way.

Apart from my inexperience I reckon it’s easier to drive a bigger 4WD than X-trial. Am I correct?

Thanks guys for all the hints, I’ll remember them all in my next trip.


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We are heading off road in a few weeks to do a trip so check out the events and meet up to be part of some fun around Beerburum and glass house mountains area.

Love to take you on some simple tracks and show you what I have learnt with the exy.

Regards Scot.

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Hi Rodrigo,

It seemed you took the long way onto Bribie. If you had of went to the other end of the island, so much easier. Woorim Beach entry to the beach is 100metres long and a much better entry onto a great day trip beach driving.

The inland passage is very soft sand and lots of people get bogged down (yes, even me).

Not too sure what a recovery track is but assume it's like Max Trax and usually they are good. To do the inland track, you really need to let your tyres down more than 18psi, most likely 10 would have been better.

I will be doing a trip up ther in November if you want to come along. We can even give you some tips and driving hints to make your next (alone) trip easier if you like. Seeing as how you are in Brisbane, why not get added to my email list Here and I'll send out emails when trips are organised so you know when they are coming up.

If you wish to know anything else about Bribie, ask away or send me a PM and I'll see if I can help you out.

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"What do you guys reckon? "

Beautifully written, I was with you every step of the way.

Unfortunately, sand driving rewards those who are adept at the art and penalises those who are not.

It also seems to sometimes tolerate the ignorant: 20 years ago, I used to drive my (Edit : 66Kw total power) Subaru over every beach available with its 175x70x13 tyres at road pressure.

Never got stuck. Ignorance was bliss.

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Freewill
That stroll would be great, but I can't make it on Sept 29th. Hopefully I will be able to attend the next one.


BlackThunda
Is there a beach track to get there? Oh man... I should have asked it here before I go. Definitely I'll try to find this easier path to get there. No more Bribie's inland track!

I'll add my email to your list now!


This is what a recovery track...
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DogTrail
There are different sort of sand: hard one and soft one. The hard one can rewards the ignorance but I'm sure the soft doesn't.

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That is a Maxtrax, a solid piece of plastic.
There are flexible aids as well that are more like the tread of a war tank or excavator.

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