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Date Registered: 01-2013
Location: Adelaide
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http://dashcamtalk.com/dash-cam-comparison/


This is a great site to compare dash cams

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Date Registered: 05-2012
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Techmoan does an honest review.

Like Dashcamtalk, well worth reading.

An update of my experiences with car cameras:

After the Navig8r's RFI interference problems with the X-Trail, I upgraded to a Navman MiVue 358 from bricks and mortar Richard Smith in Aus. (d*** Smith kept on being edited out by the online censor) which did not interfere with the radio.

3x the price, but 30fps with MOV (Mpeg4) latest codecs in 1080p standard view.

Wide angle 120 degree vision drops to 720p playback in MOV .

At 200 bucks, as should be expected, it is much better in 720p and vastly better in 1080p than the 68 dollar Navig8r.

However, there is no saving in file space or extension of card recording time by using 720p with the Mivue 358.

In fact the 720p files are substantially larger than the 1080p files in a moving vehicle.

Quite the opposite of what is said on the Navman website. "720p gives longer recording time' - I wish.

I see it as a major Firmware efficiency problem, but Navman don't seem to share that view as they have declined to reply to any of my queries on that matter over the last 6 weeks..

Politely told twice a week that it has been referred to tech support who will contact me within 24-48 hours.

Never happened.

Other than that, the 1080p image is good enough to give number plates at 15m in freeze frame.

The 720p image is not quite there. Despite its unusually high 10 MBPS recording rate.

It is probably twice as good as a 68 dollar camera in that resolution, but the 1080p option romps all over it. Vastly better.

Very easy to watch on playback.

Looking closely, 1080p gives some slight compression artifacts in low light (it is a smaller file than the same 3 minute run in 720p) with less field of view but with a better definition on the 1920x1080 screen.

Pity about the lack of reply from Navman Support for simple questions...(the odd recording rates with 720p running 3x the bit rate*pixel of 1080p ?.)...which apparently may be too hard to answer.

Ignoring my particular annoyance of what I see as sub-optimal coding, the MiVue 358 in1080p has so far performed well. - even in hot QLD days.

Not overheating the internal parts is a good thing.

I only use the 1080p resolution as I've found the MiVue 358, using the 720p option gives a lower resolution with a larger file. - A pointless waste of resources.

Bottom line - for a local Australian purchase, the price for the Mivue 358 is surprisingly similar to overseas/internet price and if purchased locally, can be returned locally if you find that the goods may not be quite as advertised and that annoys you enough to wish to return the item under Australian consumer laws.

After reading the above, your eyes should be open.

It works well in 1080p.
No idea why they even offer the pointless 720p. in the 358. (the Mivue 338 might work better in that mode)
Navman Support - there is no support.
6 weeks in, it is working reliably in 1080p and I'm happy with that aspect .

NB:---use a Class 10 card on anything labelled HD (720p+) and you will avoid 80% of the problems associated with Car / Dash cameras

Edit: It is still working faultlessly and I've stopped worrying about perceived file size inefficiencies as I now only use the 1080p and don't waste my time with the 720p option.

It caught the aftermath a few minutes after a (non-fatal) rollover.

The still frames in 1080p were excellent, should anyone require car position evidence.

As there was already a large group in attendance I did not linger to become another useless ghoul.



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Date Registered: 08-2011
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Jalal have you figured out how the battery life is on this thing yet? I've just bought one so hoping it gets a couple of hours at least.

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Mine is connected to a power source 24x7, so I have never disconnected it to see how long the battery lasts.

I reckon it should last a couple of hours easy, but why do you wanna use it like that without connecting to the car battery?

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I want to be able to alternately charge the camera and my phone (which has topo maps). Using the GPS and topo maps on my phone drains the battery quickly so it only gets a couple of hours battery life before needing a charge. So basically I don't want the camera to be charging constantly.

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Not sure I understood what you meant Todd. If you bought the same black box camera I have, you can run the charger cable for it into the front/centre glovebox and have the power point there split into 2, one for the camera and the other for the phone or any else you wanna use.

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I don't have a splitter in the centre box. Just a single 12v socket. The other 12v socket (in front of the gear stick) is reserved for my UHF and ipod.
I guess I could buy a splitter of some sort.

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Yes you can Todd and that's what I have done to split the 12volt in the centre box to power the camera and iPhone which sits above the Eclipse GPS head unit. Something like THIS

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Date Registered: 08-2011
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Sweet just found one on ebay 2 x 12v and 1 x usb for $3.37

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Date Registered: 12-2010
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One can also mount a splitter in the T31 dashboard compartment as I have done. It is a 3 x 12V outlet with 1 x USB outlet.

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