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Date Registered: 06-2011
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Low Beam Headlight bulb changed.


I just change my exy lowbeam headlight bulb from standard to 4300K. It looks brighter than before, however, the transmission is not really good i felt, especially at raining night.

I am thinking about the reason that may because H11 bulb is less power than H4. If so, why did nissan use H11 rahter than H4? H11 is usally used on FOG light, right?

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Without knowing the difference in watts and temp, its kinda hard to tell why.

There are a few factors at work here...

Colour temperature is very important for 2 reasons:

-Light transmission: Cooler look lights (higher degrees K), you know the ones that give a cold blue look, actually have lower lumen output than warmer (lower temp) lights. The sweet spot depends greatly on what type of light you have. No i don't know the best values off hand emoticon

If your new lights are the same watt, and i assume cooler (higher temp K), then maybe you are getting away from the sweet spot for filament bulbs and losing lumens.

Does that make sense? The watt rating is watts CONSUMED, where as lumens is the light OUTPUT. You can have 2 globes with the same watt consumption, but different light output based on what temp they are.

-Our brains: Are used to seeing everything in daylight, or ~5,800K. Anything lower (almost all filament bulbs) will have a warmer look. This is still ok for us as its often closer to dawn and dusk light, and pleases the caveman part of our brains that says warm yellow light = cave fire = good for caveman.

HID's on the other hand were specifically designed to be as close to sunlight as possible. This gives them the best lumen output while giving us a familiar light that our brains find much easier to process images. The only reason HID's come is stupid 8,000k+ temps is for show. Their output is greatly reduced, and as we never see anything illuminated in that temp, you guessed it, our brain has a harder time processing.
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Date Registered: 02-2004
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Rick,

4300K is colour temp. You need to tell us the wattage of the HID bulbs you bought.

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Re: Low Beam Headlight bulb changed.


I used Philips H11 crystalvision 4300k 55w to replace original bulbs. The new bulbs were same as another member's thread before.

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Hi Jala

Dita_X post few pic in your thread and used same bulb as mine.

Lowbeam headlight


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The thing with the Phillips bulbs always been an excellent brightness and colour temperature, but they didn't shoot far enough compared to the factory bulbs. It has nothing to do with them being H11 or H4 I reckon.

If you invest in a more expensive bulb like the PIAA or IPF Fat Boys, you will notice a HUGE difference in terms of distance illumination but the colour of these bulbs is very close to standard. The Fat Boys are amazing to be honest.

Do a search on them and you will find some pics on the forum.

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hI JALAL

Which brand do you believe better for H11 on exy? PIAA, IPF OR PHILIPS.

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It depends on what you want to achieve Rick

1. Factory HID look
2. Better road illumination in Lo beam
3. Better brightness

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Re: Low Beam Headlight bulb changed.


For wet weather, foggy weather etc you are better off with LOWER colour temperature bulbs. In fact in many countries with drizzly foggy weather, the main headlight bulbs are slightly yellowish!! And the fog lamps are very yellow for the same reason: ie lower colour temp for damp wet weather, closer to daylight colour temps better for clear air.

More yellowish lights penetrates wet and drizzly, foggy conditions Much better than higher temp light and also doesn't reflect back and cause whiteout like higher temp light does (this relates to the optical behaviour of water droplets).

Your X-Trail's headlight bulbs are correct from the factory for most conditions and will perform over a wide range of conditions. Bluish bulbs, whilst looking "cool" etc etc are a step back. Using brighter somewhat bulbs and within legal limits is usually better except in fog and rain where "Whiteout" glare ruins the illumination.

Better to have the best normal colour temp bulbs in your headlamps and enjoy the all round performance whilst still having useable illumination when conditions are more extreme (wet and drizzly etc)

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Date Registered: 06-2011
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I kept my fog lamp with factory bulbs. I can turn it on while i am driving in bad weather conditions. Brighter light with headlight, good illumination and transmission with fog lamps.


I think that is good combination for treating all conditions.

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