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Date Registered: 02-2004
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Exactly the feeling I get Les with my T31 LOL emoticon

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Date Registered: 02-2008
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I will vouch for the power difference between models, as we have blown Steve off several beaches in straight line starts between the T30 and T31. emoticon



.... and that's with Dave carrying 2 extra passengers (ie kids) emoticon



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I've recently upgraded from a T30 II ST to a 2011 T31 Diesel TS X-Trail.

Overall, no real regrets doing the upgrade, more just a few niggly things that I guess I'm going to have to work around and/or get used to.

The biggest one is the spare tyre. I do go off-road from time to time in out of the way places where there isn't a lot of traffic. Relying on a 'temporary' spare isn't for me. Also, I've moved up a tyre size on the main tyres from 225/60 to 235/60 - I wanted to keep using Cooper ATR's and I had to go up a size for the 17" rims. I didn't want to go down a size...
Now this leaves me with a bit of an issue - the spare tyre is now even more of a different size to the main tyres. The main tyres at 235/60 won't fit in the spare tyre well, so I can simply get another one of these for the spare. I'm currently working on this issue, and it maybe a case of getting a 215/70 on the 16" rim which might just squeeze into the tyre well, but I'll provide more details on this when I achieve it.

The single front recovery point also concerns me. On the old T30, I used a tree trunk protector as an 'equaliser' strap when doing recoveries from the front. With new T31, there is only one front recovery point. From other posts on this forum, it seems that you can not fit a 2nd one. I guess I coulud always just do rear recoveries between the recovery point and tow bar and avoid the use of the front, but it would've been nice if they kept it.

I also don't think the T31 has as many front storage compartments as the T30. I actually liked the centre dash setup and am sad to see this go in the T31. The T30 had many more places to store gear up the front and also had a couple of small places in the rear as well (I liked keeping a pack of cards or UNO in the back armrest holders). Having said that, the T31 does have a much larger glovebox and the rear doors now have their own storage compartments that the T30 did not.

Other than that, I find the T31 a better vehicle overall. The interior is nicer looking and has lots of little things added over the T30. I love having the new information display with the fuel usage etc, as I find I can adjust my driving to achieve the best fuel economy, as well as get other details such as the time driving etc.

I also like/hate the rear draw system. Like it because I now can keep some gear in there all organised and free up some space in the boot. I also think that the height of the rear boot area (from roof to floorboards) stays the same between the T30 and T31, but the T31 has the extra draws, giving more carrying capacity. I hate the rear draw system, as it is a painful experience getting to the spare tyre - you have to remove quite a number of pieces (2 boards, tray, tray system). The T30 was just one board. Having said that I don't think I'll need to get to the spare tyre all that often, so maybe not a major issue, and in all honesty I'd take the rear draw system anyday. It is quite useful. You can also remove the rear draw system and just put in the floor boards if you don't like the draws and get even more height in the rear boot area.

The electronic wizardry in the new model also seems the goods. Haven't gone off-road yet to really test it (I am interested in the Braking limited slip diff setup), but on road the vehicle has definately been more behaved and the traction control definately has the goods to keep the car point in the right direction.
I actually find the T31 a bit souless to drive because it is just too easy - you point the steering in one direction and puch the accelerator. It simply goes that way. The T30 you had to 'fight' a little bit to keep it under control, which was fun but could get tiring. I think the T31 is better in this regard - seems safer and less tiring to drive, but the T30 feels more fun.

I also think the weight difference is noticeable as well - the T30 feels light and springy, whereas the T31 feels a bit more solid on the road. Again this contributes to how each one drives as noted above. T30 wins here - it just seems 'fun' and nimble to drive.

Power - I had the older petrol T30 before they brought in the power reduction, so it supposedly has slightly more power than the T31. Having said that, the T31 is an awesome beast to put the foot down on and I absolutely love it. I think the Turbo Diesel is helping here with its major increase in torque.

I'm also waiting to break in the new car before I try out towing a lightweight camper trailer. I found the petrol could do it, but it just seemed to struggle uphill a bit. Hoping that the Diesel it becomes barely noticeable, and just driving it uphill without towing, I can feel the difference - the Diesel definately feels like it can 'pull' more uphill.

So overall, I have no regret going to the T31 (except for the price tag!) and would recommend anyone thinking of upgrading to the T31 to test drive the Diesel. It feels more 'car-like' than you'd expect. Just note that if you get the Diesel, it does need to get a good high speed run every now and then and wouldn't suit people who do only quick short trips all the time.

I also keep finding small touches on the T31 which just point out how much more refined it is over the T30, making it a nicer car to drive.
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