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Date Registered: 05-2009
Location: Pine Rivers
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ESP ACTIVATING UNDER NORMAL CONDITIONS


My T31 Exy has now got 53k on the clock and has developed some strange habits of late with the ESP. On a dry bitumen road, 60KMH, straight section or bend the ESP light will activate and the ABS cuts in. Sometimes it will activate right side other times the left side and also alternates between front and rear wheels. this will happen several times over 4-5 kilometres of travel and then stop. Having said that it also at times restart a little later. It is quite puzzling and there is no one thing I can pinpoint as having initiated this. ANY IDEAS OUT THERE?

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Date Registered: 06-2008
Location: Blue Mountains, NSW
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Sounds like you have a internitted fault in a wiring connection. Does the 'ESP off' light flicker when it illuminates?
Could also be a fault with the ESP control unit.
Either way its definately worth getting the dealer to have a look.

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Date Registered: 05-2009
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I now have 83,700km up on this vehicle and have 3 days left on my warranty. This problem is still occurring and the only plus is that I have been as proactive about raising the issue with the dealer. They have consistently found nothing showing on the computer apart from the 80,000 service when they found that there was an earthing problem with the ABS which they fixed and recalibrated the ABS at the same time. The ESP problem is however still occurring and there appears to be no reason for it. The dealer is now taking the vehicle for a week and hooking it up to the computer while they travel around in it in the hope that the problem arises while they are driving it outside of their normal test run.

The ESP light flickeres on and the abS kicks in very strongly. Once the ESP is turned off it sometime continues to kick in and eventually the ABS lights light uip on the dashboard.

Has anyne else out there experienced this strange phenomenom.

Stewy

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Date Registered: 06-2008
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I would still go back to the dealer with a couple of days left in your warranty. That way they will still know about the problem and should endeavor to fix it after the warranty expires.

A strange problem this one of yours.

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Date Registered: 05-2009
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OK. Just got the vehicle back and they were not able to recreate the problem. SO.....they machined the brake rotors (under warranty) and said this should fix the problem. Drove out of the dealership, got home and parked the car. Drove out of my garage and off it went again.

Spoke to another Xtrail owner this morning who tells me he has the same problem and took it to another dealer for repair and was told it was a fuse which was replaced for the sum of $198.

I now know of 2 Xtrails out there with this problem so please if some one else has this can they give me a solution - Nissan has not got one.

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Date Registered: 09-2011
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I have actually just posted a similar thread in the technical sub forum but this sounds exactly like what I experienced today after picking my car up after some minor accident repairs were done (as well as a service and wheel alignment)

Sorta scared me a little as I was just driving along and all of a sudden the car started pulling or swerving or something (its hard to explain) and felt like it was losing power or something.)
The light was flashing every second (not flickering) and once I pulled over it stopped. I didnt turn the car off or anything like that.
I don't think I was using brakes at the time but may have tapped them as it did happen on a slight decline/hill where the speed limit is only 60.
I have driven it again since with no issue...about 20kms...maybe less.

I thought it might have something to do with the wheel alignment we had done but then I didnt even know what that little light that looks like a slippery when wet sign was. hehe
Perhaps it has something to do with the accident and repairs? (body repairs - reversing into pole)
Perhaps its unrelated and just coincidence that it happened after picking up car from repairs/service/alignment....

I do not know and am as interested as you to find out more.



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Maybe one of the wheel sensors was damaged in the accident and hasn't been repaired.


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Have a look at this thread, it might help a little.

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Date Registered: 09-2011
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Thanks for that!
Im not sure if it helped or not but I did a reset (considering the car has been serviced) and the problem hasn't shown itself again in the 400+ kms I have driven over the weekend.
Fingers crossed it stays that way!

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Date Registered: 12-2014
Location: Adelaide
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I know this similar issue can be caused by a few simple things which are often overlooked, and mostly by nissan workshops!!!
1. Tyre pressures, CHECK CHECK & check again, ive seen and experienced in my R34 with low-prof tyres, which had 10+PSI missing from the LH rear, due to a crack in my mag (lightweight forged alloy wheels).
this upset the rpm of this wheel, ie reduced its rolling radius and the BCM was reading it to be spinning, slightly faster than the RH side.
Also with the xtrail with lowered PSI in all-round for beach driving and only a 'quick-inflate' from a lil compressor to get me to the servo down the road, did my fronts up to 34 and the rears only to 20+, till they stopped bulging
2. Same goes for tyres worn on the front excessively, fronts are spinning faster on front than rear, due to same issue above different roll-outs (effective tyre circumference.)

NOW the ABS/ESC traction units all rely on this info to calculate when and how much brake force to apply and how/when to cut power, all of which is done without a thought, but what Ive noticed, on both my nissans, is the computers which calculate this are lenient in how much 'error' they are reporting, ie a lsightly mis-sized tyre, in my case the spare i had at the time, not for this car, but was bloody close in terms of diametre didnt cause any issue, so there does appear to be a threashold / tolerance it allows.

I hope this is the case in any of the above posts, but in this order I would check.
-make/model and size of all tyres
-Tyre pressures (can be balanced to account if you feel the wear is excessive on say the fronts, lower the PSI about 6psi in the rear)
-Tyre Wear (remember every 5mm of tyre diameter is approx 15mm in roll-out, of which i think the tolerance is about 9mm in dia!!! on my r34 prev, but is only an estimate based on calculated circs of diff tyres)
-also take a look and see if you have abnormal tyre wear, wearing out on isides or outsides of tyres can also cause some skipping of the tyres, possibly causing a similar issue with the ESC/TCS etc.

hope this has shed some light, if not then you may have dirty counters/teeth on your rear rings or front sensors (no teeth) or a faulty sensor, as mentioned above, or other issue somewhere.
cheers nate
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