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Date Registered: 08-2011
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update

dealer has dropped the oil out, approximately 1 to 1.5 liters of oil.. oil level reads 2 notches from the top on dipstick, and 1 bar down on the computer.

Nissan Australia says it's within specifications. The dealer noted that this "service" is out of goodwill and they didn't charge me for it.

They also said i should be ok to drive to Melbourne like that, and if i do suffer a breakdown, i can call for roadside assistance, though along the nullabor it will take a while should anything go wrong.

any advice from anyone if i should keep going with less oil? i will bring a top up with me just in case the oil level does drop too much.
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Date Registered: 05-2011
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of course it is within specs,does not fix the problem though.to come from someone,probably with some tech. training makes doubly suspect,all they are trying to do is get rid of you,out of sight and out of mind.get it in writing.i bet they will not put their name to it.i would do as you said,keep eye on level and have some as backup.i tried to get tech. info. from nissan australia in regard to location of fuelpump t31,m9r.iwas told "we have no one to give tech.info here at nissan au"but i can put you through to a melbourne dealership"which they did.i am glad they did.melbournians ,i feel are much more professional than my mob in darwin.see someone in mel if you get there.i am going to adelaide end of month,maybe see you in port augusta.good luck from gromit2011 , x-2261. regards john
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yea nissan australia is based in Melbourne. i will visit there when i can ... my departure date from Perth is now 4th June. i can't get it in writing from the dealer here. in hindsight nobody would be silly enough to put on paper "yes putting less oil in the car below recommendation and specification is ideal".
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just a quick update

the x trail started dripping oil on the driveway again despite it having less oil than recommended. taken it back to the dealer and apparently a gasket has failed somewhere, and it needs the engine pulled out to have the offending parts replaced. was told it was a fault at factory and i'm the first one to have this problem.

i am without the car for 3 days, which is better than the initial "need the car for a week bring it in next week monday". i hope to have it back by Friday.

i don't believe the dealer but i don't have much of a choice but to give them the benefit of the doubt. the problem i know is the engine breathes too much oil and fills up the provent, breathes through the hoses, out the turbo etc.. i believe that fixing the gasket will hide the problem temporarily but it will still ultimately spit oil out everywhere. will update thread about what happens next but i really hope the car will make the trip to melbourne.
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Date Registered: 10-2011
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XTrail76, your problems sound most unfortunate!

I just completed 10,000km in my TL and had her serviced at the local Nissan dealer. It's come back with the oil one notch below full. Prior to the service I had noticed only a couple of very minor spatters of oil on the air cleaner but nothing near as dramatic as some of the pictures uploaded in this forum by other members. Other than that the car was given a clean bill of health and she goes just as well as ever with 7.6L/100km combined cycle. And in 10,000km I've never seen a DPF light once. But then again we do a lot of driving above 70kmh.

I have no problem with the oil being slightly less than full. It won't affect performance or wear and splash lubrication in the sump does not require the oil level to be chockers...so if this is what Nissan is doing now then I'll defer to the experts.

I keep a regular eye on the air filter (this forum has made me paranoid, dammit) but thus far, I'm satisfied that my engine seems to be performing well.

XTrail76, I tend to agree with you that perhaps your engine has not run in as well as it might have and you're getting a lot of blowby. Please keep us updated mate. I'm sure plenty of people are interested!


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I am removing my diesel fuel pump (see fuel pump post in technical issues). To access the the securing bolts I have had to remove the air filter manifold assembly. I put in a new air filter prior to my petrol/diesel incident and the vehicle had only done 1,000kms. I am surprised to see the amount of oil on the top LH side (very wet) on the filter itself, but was horrified to see the pool of oil in the hose between the manifold section (MAF) and the engine intake. Will take some photos.

I will be going the Provent route.

(I have not had any abnormal oil usage being noted in the recent posts - vehicle done 80,000k's).

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things have taken a turn for the worse


basically they have delayed my trip, and left me in a very awkward predicament, and because the car has failed, it is costing me money . car was meant to be ready on Friday the 1st. today. yesterday the 5th, i was told the car would not be ready because the "rear main" seal had split. this is not correct becuase they did not take the gearbox out to replace the "main sump" gasket. so i'm not sure which gasket failed to cause the massive oil leak, and also which gasket did they split to further delay my trip. i am shattered to see my car taken apart, engine out etc etc with 11,000 kms on the clock and less than 1 year old.

i am unable to get any clear facts, but i was verbally told fixing this gasket will solve the oil air seperator problem as well.

today i will be going into the dealer with diplomatic and civil intentions but with the threat of legal action. unfortunately this is now off topic, and my problem has gone far from the simple oil air seperator problem, to a "main sump" , accidental splitting of "rear main" seal, and a week's delay.
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Date Registered: 12-2008
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Are we any closer to finding out the root cause of this issue?


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unfortunately i am not.

the provent in mine is trapping a lot of oil 200ml every 1000kms, still.

3 weeks ago i had the engine out of the car for the 2nd time in its 9 month / 15,000km life. i drained provent. strangely, this dealer filled the oil up to the correct capacity, not 2 notches down. i've done 500 kms on it, and there is oil in the provent already. so the original theory of "less oil in the sump" doesn't solve it.
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Date Registered: 06-2008
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the provent in mine is trapping a lot of oil 200ml every 1000kms, still.


Thats a lot of oil, surely they can see that too. Or don't they know about the Provent.

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