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Date Registered: 06-2008
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Every one has it wrong why manufacturers don't factory fit turbo timers.
There is one simple reason why they don't.

In most countries, including the majority of states in Australia, it is illegal to leave the car running for a set time after you have locked the doors.
Especially if your vehicle is a manual and you have to rely on the handbrake.

Even if you do fit a timer you can't secure the vehicle cause the immobiliser will shut the engine down as soon as you push the magic button.

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Date Registered: 08-2012
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cooch t31 wrote:

Even if you do fit a timer you can't secure the vehicle cause the immobiliser will shut the engine down as soon as you push the magic button.





Untrue.

If you lock the drivers door with the key, the other 3 will still lock whilst the engine is running.

My MK Triton has had a TT fitted since brand new. When I push the magic button, the Central Locking will lock all doors with the engine running, same goes for multiple previous work vehicles, including Prado, Patrol and Rodeo.

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Date Registered: 06-2008
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Thanks Charlie, I stand corrected.

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After a delay waiting for production, I've finally had the Bogaard Turbo Timer fitted. All 5 doors lock with the magic button and with the key.

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This is a related question about the humming noise after shutdown.

I'm someone who knows very little about cars generally, so forgive me if I am asking a dopey question.

After reading as much as I could find about the various pumps that run for the benefit of the turbo / manifold / blah after shutting down the engine, I can't seem to find an answer to my question.

My XTrail T31 does a 4-5 second hum at seemingly regular intervals all the time when shut down. I have only just noticed it after almost 12 month of owning mine, because we're doing our first camping trip and the car is right next to the tent.

Regularly through the evening and wee hours I'll hear the car hum - the same 4-5 second hum - at intervals.

My question has a few parts:
- What would be causing this hum?
- Is it normal for it to continue all the time?
- Does it have any potential impacts (e.g. battery drain?)?
- If it is NOT normal, what should I ask the mechanic to look for?

Thanks so much in advance.

My wife and I are currently on a roadtrip to Rockhampton & back from Wollongong, but we're also going to be travelling Australia starting in August 2015, with the Exy as a tow-vehicle. I'm keen to fix this up asap if it's a problem.

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Yes it's normal
It runs for a lot longer than 5 secs after shut down
The noise is a small electric pump circulating oil to cool the turbo (The turbo runs around 20psi boost and could boil the oil in the bearings if it just shut down after high speed hwy use and crack the turbo)

The buzz is normal, don't worry.

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Date Registered: 05-2014
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Charlie250 wrote:

Yes it's normal
It runs for a lot longer than 5 secs after shut down
The noise is a small electric pump circulating oil to cool the turbo
The buzz is normal, don't worry.



I believe that the pump circulates engine coolant to cool the turbo-charger and this stops the oil in the turbo from "frying".
Really, if your car has this feature, an idle down timer is not necessary and should be considered a waste of time and money.

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Date Registered: 10-2011
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Yes, Ecstrail is right - it's coolant that is circulated by the buzzing pump on shutdown, not oil. I've got the Nissan factory training manual here and it says it's coolant.

And if you're prepared to sit for just a couple of minutes with the engine idling after parking - even if it's to simply check your phone, put the sun shade on the windscreen or go to the mailbox to check the mail - then the turbo timer is indeed a waste of an add-on. I do this stuff and it nicely takes just that couple of minutes for the turbo to spin down a bit and cool off.
Besides, I believe in most states turbo timers are actually illegal as you can't leave your vehicle unattended with the engine running.

But, as Jalal has pointed out before, to each his own. Those who want to waste their dollars on a turbo timer are most welcome to do so.

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Date Registered: 06-2012
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Wow, i've never seen such a wayward discussion about a turbo timer.

First off, $320 is an absurd price for a turbo timer. They all perform the same function, you're only paying for what the timer module looks like and how big it is. What's wrong with this Bogaard timer for half the price of the one on the first page? The Special price comment is disgusting. The only reason(s) people would likely choose a Bogaard over other brands is because they're either 12/24v and marketed as tough and robust for the 4WD enthusiasts. A timer is just a module inline with ignition power. Engine type is irrelevant.

Admin Edit: eBay link removed as per forum rules.

Secondly, i probably wouldn't doubt that timers are illegal, but until someone posts up a copy from the relevant legislative Act to prove it, people are going to keep arguing about it. Further to this, i could safely say there won't be turbo timer police patrolling local shopping centres looking for unoccupied running cars. Now, or in the near future.
I also don't know why comments are made about car theft with a timer running? if the wiring is spliced into the handbrake, it can't be taken. handbrake down, engine cuts off. If thieves want your car, a timer is irrelevant.

if you do install a timer, 2 minutes is fine. unless you're circuit racing your xtrail with performance mods, stock boost on these cars wont generate enough heat/heat soak to distort the turbo core or cause premature seal failure.

anyway thats my two cents, has anyone installed a timer other than a rip off Bogaard? If you could post up pics or a wiring diagram of how to splice and replay into the bcm, so central lock still works with timer running, that would be great! Once i have that, i'll grab my $99 pencil timer off eBay.

Cheers.







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Thanks for your 2 cents worth mate, but the price posted in this thread is super old (posted in 2009) and hence no longer applicable.

Secondly and if you have bothered reading the forum rules, they clearly state that no eBay linkage is allowed for any reason, so please make sure you adhere to those rules as you agreed to do when you signed-up to become a member. Thanks for your cooperation.

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