Runboard.com
You're welcome.
Australian X-Trail Website Members Rides

Site Search

Facebook Aussie Forum Website Twitter Aussie Forum Website YouTube Aussie Forum Website Flickr PhotoBucket MSN Messenger Skype RSS Feed Events Calendar Admin Mailbox Nissan Australia myNissan Capped Service Fuel Consumption Monitor Tyre Size Calculator Australian X-TRAIL Forum Live Chat

Forum Rules   
   Register for a free global account (learn about it) | LOG IN: globally (click here) (Lost Password?)




Page:
 1  2  3  4  5  6 

 
Robbo0001 Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

BANNED USER

Date Registered: 07-2008
Location: Brisvegas, Australia
TOTAL POSTS: 1063
Reply | QUOTE
Re: Crank position sensor


Hate to say it Jamie, but there isnt really that much to suggest. Usual suspects...fuel, air, spark and timing.

If its not throwing an error code, the fuel system may be dumping in too much fuel (as discussed elsewhere) and you may need to let it sit for a while before cranking it over again. If it just cranks and cranks but wont fire, this may be the case.

There may be loose/poor connections in the crank and cam position sensor loom, giving false or intermittent information.

Possibly fuel pump fault...loose connection, bad or intermittent earth

Try and do the idle air reset, as well as ensure that you can do the accelerator pedal reset, and also that you can here the solenoids moving whilst doing it.

There are so many variables with intermittent faults, it can drive you nuts.
Been there done that emoticon

Probably not much help....get hold of a scanguage and see if it can read an error code.

Cheers






---
Dave
99 GU Patrol 2.8TD
Ex-2002 T30 TI Xtrail
23/Jul/2010, 12:28 pm Link to this post Send Email PM   Send Private Message
 
Revhead Kev Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info



Date Registered: 10-2006
Location: Mona Vale, Sydney, AUSTRALIA
TOTAL POSTS: 5945
Reply | QUOTE
Re: Crank position sensor


Getting off-topic here Jamie with this problem.
How many tries at starting do you get before the battery sounds like it is slowing ?
You might need a new battery.
On the occasions it did not start, did you move the Xtrail a short distance the night before ?
It might be "bore wash" and you should let the Xtrail idle for a minute before turning it off when only started for a short few seconds.

---
Kev X450(c) T30 Guru
03 Titanium Ti T30 Series 1 **MODIFIED**
My Blog
My CarPC Worklog
23/Jul/2010, 11:41 pm Link to this post Send Email PM   Send Private Message Blog
 
BlackThunda Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info




Date Registered: 09-2005
Location: Wishart Queensland
TOTAL POSTS: 1567
Reply | QUOTE
Re: Crank position sensor


Definitely not the battery Kev, she's still got heaps of grunt left in it and didn't go flat at all.

It was as if she was going to crank over so I let go of the key but it just didn't fire. Did this 4 or 5 times.

First time, drove it the night before, morning after - no go. Last week, had driven it no different as usual, home from work, 15-20 minute drive. Turned off and 6 hours later went to start it up - no go. This week, same as usual.



---
Jamie & Vicky - X112(c)

(old) Black 2005, Auto ST-X, (Series 2)
(new) 2011 Series 4 T31 T1 (CVT Auto) Diamond Black
(2nd car) 92 Pajero (old but tuff) Red

Black Thunda is the name, splashin' around is the game!
24/Jul/2010, 7:57 pm Link to this post Send Email PM   Send Private Message
 
colXtrail Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

X-TRAIL NEWBIE
 


Date Registered: 04-2011
Location: Melbourne
TOTAL POSTS: 12
Reply | QUOTE
Re: Crank position sensor


My crank position sensor died on Friday afternoon (98,000kms). It was a bit inconvenient, by the time I had searched the net and finally worked out the MIL (0335) error code the Melbourne City Nissan parts had closed. They are not open Saturday morning either. Had to get a friend to collect the part for me from Bundoora (open saturday mornings).

Thought I would just list a few facts and tips here.

Symptoms: loss of power, RPM gauge stops working, 4WD light comes on, stalling, hard to start.

Part: The part costs $99 and comes with 2 sensors, one for the camshaft (easy to fit).

Fitting: Do the camshaft sensor first as it is visible and will give you a good idea of how difficult it's going to be to extract the crankshaft sensor which is located around the back of the engine and is not visible, you need to remove by feel.

I found this much easier to do by removing 2 brackets, the one that braces the air intake manifold to the engine block (4 bolts) and one just behind it that holds a wiring loom (1 bolt), removing these gives your arm less of a snake bend to achieve whilst fiddling around. It also helps if you get an old cushion and place it over the bonnet latch, this will save you from impaling yourself on it leaning into the engine.

All up the job took a couple of hours. It's not for the faint hearted though, unless you've had previous mechanical experience your better off leaving this one to the mechanics.

col.

---
Xtrail: 2002 T30 TiL Series one auto (141,000kms)
14/Nov/2011, 7:10 am Link to this post Send Email PM   Send Private Message Blog
 
krisskross1985 Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

X-TRAIL ENTHUSIAST
 


Date Registered: 10-2011
Location: Gold Coast
TOTAL POSTS: 100
Reply | QUOTE
Re:


hi all, long time no post lol well about 2 weeks anyways with a busted wheel bearing.. now a busted crank sensor I've had the car for a month. and lets just say i know the statutory warranty mechanics by name now. I'm glad this is all going wrong within the warranty period. this post has been a helpful towards this problem as i have shown the mechanic all the info.. thats after he told me it was the sensor. i was like yep i figured it was that i even had to explain its a !@#$ to get to. lol his problem now.. so is there any more common faults with the t30 just so i can get them fixed too emoticon

---
2006 T30 40th aniv Auto
K&N, Platinum Plugs, Raised Muffler
DBA, Bendix Brakes EFS shocks, King Springs
Throttle Body Spacer, Alutech Strut Bar
My Custom made bash plate :D
Yokohama Geolander A/T
X-2113(c)
1/Dec/2011, 7:00 pm Link to this post Send Email PM   Send Private Message Blog
 
evorock Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

X-TRAIL ENTHUSIAST
 


Date Registered: 12-2010
Location: Rockingham,Perth WA
TOTAL POSTS: 146
Reply | QUOTE
Re: Crank position sensor


Hi all.
Just a quick note on these damn Crank and Camshaft Sensors that seem to be failing.
I bought the pair today, $88.00 trade and $112.00 Retail. ($Ask, you never know)

Ive read that people have paid alot of money in labour for Nissan to fit these.
I did mine today and timed how long it took to install.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!7 MINUTES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Take your socket wrench with a 10mm socket and six inch extension bar.
The Crank sensor is located on the Firewall side of the Engine Block(alomost in line with number 4 cylinder)
When your leaning over the front of the car reach down and around the right side of the Intake manifold(its a stretch) and the sensor is right next to where the gearbox meets the Block
(it faces in the block). Dont even bother trying to Unplug it. Manouvere your socket on that 10mm nut that holds it in and remove until you can pull the sensor and remove(wiggle) the plug. Put a bit of oil on the new one and repeat for install.

As for the Camshaft Sensor, its the one on top right side of the engine head just under the Rocker(Valve) Cover above the thermostat housing (black Plug). Remove with 10mm and wiggle out as both these sensors have an Oring holding em in.

NOTE.... Dunno if this makes any difference but one of the new sensors has a white paint mark on it and that one is for the Crankshaft spot.

Hope this helps someone.
Nissan should have these Sensors in stock as they know youll come one day.lol. Most Nissans share the same crappy sensors.

Edit: Engrish mistake.

Last edited by evorock, 9/Dec/2011, 12:44 am


---
2002 T30 Xtrail Ti , White 5Sp
Full engine rebuild, Single Mass flywheel upgrade,
Scott, Rockingham, Perth WA
9/Dec/2011, 12:41 am Link to this post Send Email PM   Send Private Message Blog
 
jalalski Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info




Date Registered: 02-2004
Location: SUTHERLAND, SYDNEY
TOTAL POSTS: 29094
Reply | QUOTE
Re: Crank position sensor


Hey Scot, did you time yourself fitting these sensors with the engine off the exy? LOL emoticon

---

9/Dec/2011, 5:08 am Link to this post Send Private Message MSN Blog
 
evorock Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

X-TRAIL ENTHUSIAST
 


Date Registered: 12-2010
Location: Rockingham,Perth WA
TOTAL POSTS: 146
Reply | QUOTE
Re: Crank position sensor


Sorry Jalal, didnt see ur post. Hahah, yeah alot easier if the engines on a crane.
But no. thats seven minutes with the engine in the car but I did know exactly where they were tho.



---
2002 T30 Xtrail Ti , White 5Sp
Full engine rebuild, Single Mass flywheel upgrade,
Scott, Rockingham, Perth WA
18/Jan/2012, 9:18 pm Link to this post Send Email PM   Send Private Message Blog
 
bobnrob Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

X-TRAIL NEWBIE
 


Date Registered: 05-2011
Location: Aussie
TOTAL POSTS: 39
Reply | QUOTE
Re: Crank position sensor


Ours went while we were 500k away from home, & 1 week after 100k service!

Just coming into Dubbo (camping at Wellington) when it happened.
Found the Nissan dealer & a VERY helpful young bloke named Lee (credit where credit's due emoticon ) told us they couldn't get to it for about 1 wk cause they were flat out, but made phone calls & chased things up to help get us sorted.
Including Nissan, no one in town had the Sensors, but they were ordered for us by someone else to be picked up the next day - at a cheaper price emoticon

Was quoted between $700-$800 (including parts) to have it fixed emoticon so after looking up, & reading about replacing them on here emoticon I figured I'd have a go at replacing them myself, & save a fair whack of our holiday money.
Unfortunately, it was also raining, & I tow a camper & not a shed with me when we go away. So cruised 'round until I found a shopping centre with undercover parking emoticon

Got the Cam Sensor no worries, but be booged if I could find the Crank Angle Sensor - what to do? It's now just gone 1pm on a Fri afternoon.
Figured we run back to camp at Wellington, & that way we'd be with all our gear, & I could take my time finding this other Sensor.

Coming into Wellington & spotted the NRMA Service centre, so pulled in on the off chance. Explained the situation to the bloke there, & he got straight into it, told us he'd probably be about a 1 1/2 hrs. We got back about 2hrs later & he said it'd only taken him about 1/2 hr - most looking up where he had to put it emoticon
Charged us $80 & we were on our way emoticon Total cost $230 - a LONG way from $7-800 for Nissan to do it emoticon

Week & 1/2 later, we got home from our trip without anymore mishaps emoticon

---
Bob

1. Year 2006 (1st Rego '07)
2. Model ST-S
3. Series II
4. Manual
5. Engine 2.5 Petrol

Member #X-1924
24/Jan/2012, 9:55 pm Link to this post Send Email PM   Send Private Message Blog
 
evorock Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

X-TRAIL ENTHUSIAST
 


Date Registered: 12-2010
Location: Rockingham,Perth WA
TOTAL POSTS: 146
Reply | QUOTE
Re: Crank position sensor


Nice one. Glad you got em fixed in the end. I reckon nissan should put two spare sensors in with the spare fuse panel in 4wds just for situations like that for whenthey fail. Ive got some in the glovebox now.
 It still amazes me how it takes some places soo long and soo much to do this. For any mechanic it should be fairly easy to find these sensors after a quick look over the engine layout.. Its good to see that NRMA guy was honest with you and the cost wasnt over the top.

Camshaft Sensor=Linear position with most camshafts, even quad cam setups.
Crankshaft Sensor=Normally aimed on the Cranshaft signal plate in the block.

Theres only maybe two or three other sensors in the block generally that it could be confused with, ( knock,oil pressure,water temp) but they dont take measurements etc from the Crankshaft Signal end or look like the new plug you have in your hands..

My 2c anyways....

Last edited by evorock, 26/Jan/2012, 4:53 pm


---
2002 T30 Xtrail Ti , White 5Sp
Full engine rebuild, Single Mass flywheel upgrade,
Scott, Rockingham, Perth WA
26/Jan/2012, 4:48 pm Link to this post Send Email PM   Send Private Message Blog
 


Reply




Page:
 1  2  3  4  5  6 





You are not logged in (login)

forum sticker
Back to top Back to top

Back to top

<-- end container -->