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Date Registered: 03-2012
Location: Newcastle, NSW
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Michael, I believe you may have that confused? Fresh, new coils usually start a little higher than they're specified to, after which they do settle (down), roughly around the measurements quoted, etc. I probably settled anywhere from 5-10mm (averaged between the front and rear) lower than the height it was when I drove it out of the workshop, but I'm more than ok with that small "loss". It would definitely be nice if springs did settle higher though!

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Date Registered: 08-2012
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If anyone is using their Exy off the bitumen, it would be very difficult to overlook the swap we've just had done to ours.

Having used the Bridgestone Dueller 694LT extensively on work 4WD's for years and been very happy with them, we had our new TS T31 fitted with Bridgestone's updated version of the 694, the Dueller 697 in 225 65 R17 size pre delivery.

This has narrowed the speedo error to approx 4km/h @ 100km/h (Speedo is indicating 100, per my GPS we are actually doing 96)

2000rpm in 6th comes up at 105km/h

Great tyre off bitumen, not too noisy on the tar either.

I also bought an extra 17in Alloy rim from a wreckers (off a write off with less than 1000km on the clock) as the standard steel rim spare has an 80km/h rating, which is a joke!)

We do a lot of Hwy driving, so getting a flat on a Sunday out the back of Bourke and then being limited to 80km/h doesn't excite me one bit.

Interestingly, whilst the factory spare is legal to carry, providing the tyre & rim are roadworthy, it's illegal to use it. (Once odd tyres are fitted to any axle, a vehicle becomes unroadworthy!)

 
With the above-mentioned Dueller 697 tyre fitted to the 5th alloy, unfortunately it doesn't fit into the spare wheel cavity under the floor!! So it's now firmly strapped to the Cargo barrier in the boot and all my jumper leads, tools and other infrequently used crap is stored in the spare wheel cavity.


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Date Registered: 08-2012
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Spoke to my lease company, and have been told that replacement tyres need to be like for like.

From what I've read in VSB 14, I'm going to accept that my OD can only be 15mm greater - as this is not an 'offroad car' (I could make the argument of a diff-lock, but they'd probably want low range). I'm also limited in using the standard 17" rims, as the lease company doesn't want the rim size changed.

Essentially, the maximum i can go is 15mm from the largest tyre size for a Series IV - which is the 18" offered on the luxury models. This tyre has an OD of 705mm (the 225/60/17 has an OD of 702mm) - meaning the max is 720mm.

I simply can't find anything bigger except 235/60/17 (714mm) or 215/65/17 (711mm).

The 235/60/17 is available in the Cooper AT3 Passenger construction, or the Bridgestone D693 II - but this is from the US and probably not legal/ADR tested, so its out.

Nothing is available in 215/65/17 in A/T.

So my choice, if I'm to stick within the 15mm rule is either Cooper AT3's in 235/60/17 or Yokohama Geolanders in 225/60/17. At this point, I'm leaning towards the GO12's, due to the AT3's being passenger construction, and without the Armourtek features the LT construction gets.

The other choice is to hassle ACT RTA and see if i can go to 724mm with the GO12's in 225/65/17, and get a certificate that its legal... and then hope my lease company pays...

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Date Registered: 06-2008
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Michael,
The AT3's are still a 70/30 tyre but that is I think for the light truck variant which your size does not fall into.
The passenger variant still comes with a 60k guaranteed life as opposed to the light truck version of 90k.

The passenger version doesn't state about number of plies in the side wall which will concern me for off road use, light truck has a 10 ply side wall.


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Date Registered: 08-2011
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Michael why are you trying to get oversized tyres for your 17" rims? You already have your off-road 16" rims which are a larger size tyre.

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Date Registered: 08-2012
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I'm looking at getting decent quality tyres for later on this year (the yumcha ones I have on now are ok, but not great)... and the lease company will only pay for 17" varieties, within 15mm of 705mm.

I have to make my choices soon, so i can increase my pay deductions and make sure it pay from 'pre-tax' dollars (essentially makes it about 39% cheaper) in a few months.

The other option is to bite the bullet, and simply stick with the 16"s... and pay from post-tax dollars and not tell the leasing company.

Are all the GO12's an LT construction?

Tony - i agree with your views on the AT3's being P construction, not LT... hence why i haven't REALLY considered them.

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Date Registered: 08-2011
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When you say later this year you mean the outback trip? If so you shouldn't need heaps of clearance out there. Not planning on any heavy 4x4ing. Most important thing would be decent tread in case it gets wet.

The GO12's are not light truck. But they do come with the hazard warranty. I had a tyre replaced for free under this warranty when the side wall developed a bulge. Would be the same for punctures.

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Date Registered: 08-2012
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Yeah. For the outback trip. I was hoping to find a more solid tyre with better LT construction sidewall. I do like the yoko warranty. Ill be getting a set of 5.

But even in 16" (I.e. my lease company won't buy them), there are no LT construction tyres that will even fit on our cars without scrubbing - even if I go >15mm OD.


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Date Registered: 03-2012
Location: Newcastle, NSW
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Pretty sure bfg do an A/T in an LT215/70/16 size? They're a bit costly, but that's just an example. And that is factory sizing for the T31. There is always a tyre out there in the size/style you need, it just takes a painful amount of looking to find it (trust me, I've been there).

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Date Registered: 08-2011
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For that trip Michael I will be running 5 Yokos (225/65/17) and an extra H/T spare on the roof (225/70/16 - 2mm smaller diameter) that I got from ebay.

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