Thinking about oversized tyres on T31 https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/t126350 Runboard| Thinking about oversized tyres on T31 en-us Thu, 28 Mar 2024 17:51:45 +0000 Thu, 28 Mar 2024 17:51:45 +0000 https://www.runboard.com/ rssfeeds_managingeditor@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds managing editor) rssfeeds_webmaster@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds webmaster) akBBS 60 Re:https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2097653,from=rss#post2097653https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2097653,from=rss#post2097653Just got the Goodride SU318 225/65R17. They fit perfectly, no rubbing. nondisclosed_email@example.com (s970022)Mon, 20 Jul 2020 15:07:09 +0000 Re: Re:https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2097614,from=rss#post2097614https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2097614,from=rss#post2097614Have you upsized your tyre yet? What size? quote:DamianW577 wrote: Hi I have a T31 2012 and would like to fit larger tyres. The current tyres are 225/60R17 which matches the tyre placard. Under MC code I can legally go 50mm larger diameter. The current tyres are 702mm, which would allow for 752mm tyres. 225/70R17 appears to be the closest to the legal limit at 746mm. From this thread it appears many people have installed 235/65R17 which is 738mm. From what I can see at static ride height there appears to be enough height to clear 225/70R17 but will there be rubbing whilst turning or when the suspension is compressed? nondisclosed_email@example.com (s970022)Fri, 10 Jul 2020 22:12:21 +0000 Re:https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2097269,from=rss#post2097269https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2097269,from=rss#post2097269Hi I have a T31 2012 and would like to fit larger tyres. The current tyres are 225/60R17 which matches the tyre placard. Under MC code I can legally go 50mm larger diameter. The current tyres are 702mm, which would allow for 752mm tyres. 225/70R17 appears to be the closest to the legal limit at 746mm. From this thread it appears many people have installed 235/65R17 which is 738mm. From what I can see at static ride height there appears to be enough height to clear 225/70R17 but will there be rubbing whilst turning or when the suspension is compressed?nondisclosed_email@example.com (DamianW577)Fri, 21 Feb 2020 13:17:24 +0000 Re:https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2096735,from=rss#post2096735https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2096735,from=rss#post2096735to reply to the above and put a bit of life back in this thread ... I dont think a 750mm dia tyre will fit under the wheel arch without mods. It certainly will not fit in the spare wheel well no matter how much you try. A few days ago I replaced all 5 of my Dunlop SP20's. My 2011 car was supplied with the usual 215/60 17's and after 80k kms they needed replacing again. Looking at the tyre dates I'm guessing it was on its 2nd set. The original and totally unused spare was dated 2010 ...the 4 on the wheels dated 2015. Tried to sell the unused spare back to the tyre place ..but because of the date they wouldnt take it ... fair enough. Tyre choice in my part of the world is VERY limited ... but I really wanted to increase the aspect ratio to something sensible so minimum 65%. Putting 60 series tyres on a vehicle with off-road ambitions seems to me to be an unusual decision ...sidewall dimensions are so much more important when off the tarmac...really dont understand Nissan's thinking here. Anyway..after reading all the tyre threads and checking tyre size calculators a plenty.. I was left with 225/65 x 17 as the most likely choice. Some folk have used 235's without issue ..but some also mention the occasional rubbing .. I didnt want that. A 215/70 r17 might have been an option too so they were also in my mind. Try as I might to find an A/T Geolander in 225/65 or 215/70 locally.. it wasnt to be. I couldnt even find a budget A/T tyre in either size so had to go for a H/T. Probably for the best as I only occasionally get off the tarmac these days. In the end I found somewhere with qty 5 budget 225/65 Sportrak SP766 All Season SUV M&S H/T's for about US$85 each all fitted n done. The spare fitted in the wheel well after deflating to 5psi or so .. and the trunk floor sits flat. I'm pretty sure that will be the MAXIMUM tyre size that will fit in there tho ..it was tight but it did go ... another few mm on the dia ..say a 235/65 ..and I dont think it will go in. I didnt actually find anywhere with a 215/70 r17 in stock which was a shame ... there are a few mm more in dia but as I said... it possibly wouldnt have fitted in the spare well. Anyway ... done a few days driving on the 225/65's and the car is transformed. Granted..putting new tyres on helped..but I think mainly the increase in aspect ratio has had the most effect. Road imperfections (of which there are MANY here!) are much less intrusive and the car is smooth to drive now and WAY quieter than the admittedly old 60 series Dunlops. According to the online tyre size places I gain a free 17mm of extra clearance using those tyres too.. which is always nice. Anyone with a T31 who is approaching the time for new tyres should think very carefully before buying 60 series tyres again .... the 225/65's are the way to go IMO ..... the spare fits in the wheel well..and there are ZERO rubbing issues ..at least so far. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Bertoknee)Sat, 18 May 2019 12:30:48 +0000 Re: Thinking about oversized tyres on T31https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2096545,from=rss#post2096545https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2096545,from=rss#post2096545Hi, someone using a 215/80 r16 in an original t31? The diameter is 75cm. The original tire in my t31 has 69cm of diameter. This is two options that I have here in my city: The tire size difference: nondisclosed_email@example.com (marcelocwb)Wed, 27 Feb 2019 05:22:01 +0000 Re: Thinking about oversized tyres on T31https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2094034,from=rss#post2094034https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2094034,from=rss#post2094034The placard will only show the recommended sizes based on the rims you have instaled, not manufacturer or types.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Revhead Kev)Wed, 05 Jul 2017 12:27:46 +0000 Re:https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2094019,from=rss#post2094019https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2094019,from=rss#post2094019Can someone post me a pic of a later series t31 tyre placard? My tyres are in need of replacing since my last post and they were rubbish. 20,000kms and all 4 are knackered. 2 punctures and just a horrible tyre Continental cross contact lm. Urgh Should my placard show something different. This opens options for more affordable and durable tyre options in both 16 and 17 inch.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Slipry)Mon, 03 Jul 2017 14:16:09 +0000 Re: Thinking about oversized tyres on T31https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2093957,from=rss#post2093957https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2093957,from=rss#post2093957quote:Kabirsky wrote: I have recently bought BFG KO2 225/65/R17 for my T31 ...[snipped] I wonder if the increase in weigh for this tire will affect the wear of the bearings or fuel consumptions. Fuel use may go up (more friction to drive). Berarings, unlikely. Bearing preload (tension) and grease quality, factor more than larger tyres. Have your bearings checked and re-tightened to the correct torque if you're worried. But by the time most workshops do that, you might as well pay a bit extra and just get new bearings fitted. But then you should have new bearings re-checked after 500kms as well, but no-one does it. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Wiz Au)Fri, 16 Jun 2017 17:15:00 +0000 Re: Thinking about oversized tyres on T31https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2093956,from=rss#post2093956https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2093956,from=rss#post2093956Sorry if this has been posted before, but I read through A LOT and didn't see it. Given the tyre sizes people say they have fitted, I used a size calculator and some specifications from various manufacturers and came up with: The maximum 'rolling diameter' tyre that appears to fit under a T31, (with/with out lift?) is 29 inches (28.9in), or 735mm, in a width of around 225-235. So that translates to a maximum size tyre of: 29x10.5R15 (Good luck finding those! I have 9.5x30R15 on my Rocky and 10.5x31R15 on my Pathfinder, never heard of 10.5x29R15) In metric: 235/75/15, 235/70/16, 215/70/17, 225/65/17 (Prob no AT/MT in 65 series aspect!)nondisclosed_email@example.com (Wiz Au)Fri, 16 Jun 2017 17:09:53 +0000 Re: Thinking about oversized tyres on T31https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2091587,from=rss#post2091587https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2091587,from=rss#post2091587Hello Athan, I have recently bought BFG KO2 225/65/R17 for my T31, 2,5l petrol. They are quite expensive here in Romania(about 140€/PCs) There are no rubbing issues on full lock. They are quite loud but they look very good on it. I wonder if the increase in weigh for this tire will affect the wear of the bearings or fuel consumptions.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Kabirsky)Wed, 13 Jul 2016 19:29:50 +0000 Re: Thinking about oversized tyres on T31https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2090524,from=rss#post2090524https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2090524,from=rss#post2090524quote:ick111 wrote: Fitted 225/70/16 BS A/T D697 on kings terra rims. 2012ti s.V without lift. Do not rub. Drives better than stock 18/55/225. *snip* How does the spare of the same size go for fitting in the wheel well? Not sure if there'd be a difference to a 2008 model though.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Staxel)Mon, 08 Feb 2016 22:25:34 +0000 Re: Thinking about oversized tyres on T31https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2090194,from=rss#post2090194https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2090194,from=rss#post2090194Thanks MrMez The list for mods is now endless, start from bashplate, lift kit, rhino pioneer roof tray, light bar, cb radio ... then... patrol y61. As for now just for the look. Using oversize tyre really makes x-trail look stand out. nondisclosed_email@example.com (ick111)Fri, 08 Jan 2016 11:28:35 +0000 Re:https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2090168,from=rss#post2090168https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2090168,from=rss#post2090168Looks phat! If the petrol goes ok, the diesel will have even less issue. As for the gearing/drivetrain stress etc, it can't be worse than having a couple of fat mates in the car, and off road you lower the pressure which probably just brings it back to stock. Dropping the pressure on the 17s just brought the rim too close to the ground, and you lose so much clearance.nondisclosed_email@example.com (MrMez)Wed, 06 Jan 2016 17:36:32 +0000 Re: Thinking about oversized tyres on T31https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2090164,from=rss#post2090164https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2090164,from=rss#post2090164Fitted 225/70/16 BS A/T D697 on kings terra rims. 2012ti s.V without lift. Do not rub. Drives better than stock 18/55/225. nondisclosed_email@example.com (ick111)Wed, 06 Jan 2016 16:23:46 +0000 Re:https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2090159,from=rss#post2090159https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2090159,from=rss#post2090159Thanks Whip!nondisclosed_email@example.com (MrMez)Tue, 05 Jan 2016 15:04:31 +0000 Re: Thinking about oversized tyres on T31https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2090156,from=rss#post2090156https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2090156,from=rss#post2090156Mr Mez - 225/70/16s do not rub on a standard Exy without lift well at least not mine!!!nondisclosed_email@example.com (whip62)Mon, 04 Jan 2016 21:32:04 +0000 Re:https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2090135,from=rss#post2090135https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2090135,from=rss#post2090135so i have 235 75 15 all terrians on my kia sportage and i want to be able to put the tyres from the kia to my xtrail what steel rims do i have as a option im pretty sure the ford post au up to fg off set is the same as the x trail but just wanted to confirm if it isnondisclosed_email@example.com (fordltd)Sun, 03 Jan 2016 08:07:35 +0000 Re:https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2090131,from=rss#post2090131https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2090131,from=rss#post2090131Anyone fitted 225/70/16s? Picked up a set of 16" rims. "Upgrading" from the 225/60/17 to 225/70/16 will give a 6% increase in diameter. More important than the legality (at this stage) is will they fit/rub? Stock T31, no lift. Thanks.nondisclosed_email@example.com (MrMez)Sat, 02 Jan 2016 13:44:47 +0000 Re:https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2089882,from=rss#post2089882https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2089882,from=rss#post2089882hey just purchased my first set of all terrains i got rid of my 225/60/17 's and bought some Bridgestone duelers 697 's 225/65/17 's got him from $249 per tyre to $220 per tyre at jobsons tarren point  so far im wrapped with them and have noticed a huge difference in the wet and dry and off road nondisclosed_email@example.com (blairus)Wed, 02 Dec 2015 21:37:11 +0000 Re:https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2089437,from=rss#post2089437https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2089437,from=rss#post2089437I spoke to ACT RTA who told me that because its NCOP wording ambiguity, speak to Dept of Infrastructure (Commonwealth Department) who actually controls the document. It was a grey answer, but it comes down to 'designed for off-road' - back when I asked, there was no Amarok, so they went with no Low Range (D-Max has LR). That's pretty much it - I put up a fight... saying the 4x4 lock system was additional to AWD systems and could ONLY be used off-road otherwise permanent damage would occur. Nope... no cigar. I said, what about a base petrol ,manual Subaru Forester (had the 1.2:1 transfer case), and they gave me a waffley answer that it would probably be ok I might draft up a full letter, and see whether they'll accept an X-trail with Nissan's 4x4 system. What is the Pathfinder these days, but for a larger version of the X-trail: similar 4x4 system and no LR.nondisclosed_email@example.com (konazz)Tue, 27 Oct 2015 15:07:15 +0000 Re: Re:https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2089414,from=rss#post2089414https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2089414,from=rss#post2089414quote:konazz wrote: In QLD... refer to (which funnily enough, was updated today): http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/Safety/Vehicle-standards-and-modifications/Vehicle-modifications/Frequently-asked-questions-vehicle-standards-and-modifications.aspx#differenttyres It looks like on the whole, QLD has adopted NCOP LS, which means for X-trailers its 15mm OD increase (the 4WDers are happy, because for them 50mm is a decent increase over the old 15mm rule; the Jimny's are loving it) From memory under the NCOP (which QLD now refers to), i think you can safely go up/down 1 rim size. So an older T31, that came with 16" rims, can legally go up to 17" (you can't fit 15" to any T31). Later T31's that came with 17" can go to 16"/18"... and the luxury 18" models can go to 17"/19" (or potentially 16" if their tyre placard had a 17" size on it). So just for clarification, what makes an X-Trail less of a 4WD than say, a D-Max? Doth are normally 2WD unless they are switched to 4WD High range, and neither have locking diffs. Trial fitting 235/70/16's to my T30 tomorrow. Will let you know how they go on an un-raised car.   nondisclosed_email@example.com (godzillaT30)Thu, 22 Oct 2015 20:29:11 +0000 Re:https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2089388,from=rss#post2089388https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2089388,from=rss#post2089388Regards the speedo accuracy, ive found using my sat nav as a measure to compare against my speedo now is absolutely spot on.nondisclosed_email@example.com (mants)Tue, 20 Oct 2015 16:19:56 +0000 Re:https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2089387,from=rss#post2089387https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2089387,from=rss#post2089387In QLD... refer to (which funnily enough, was updated today): http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/Safety/Vehicle-standards-and-modifications/Vehicle-modifications/Frequently-asked-questions-vehicle-standards-and-modifications.aspx#differenttyres It looks like on the whole, QLD has adopted NCOP LS, which means for X-trailers its 15mm OD increase (the 4WDers are happy, because for them 50mm is a decent increase over the old 15mm rule; the Jimny's are loving it) From memory under the NCOP (which QLD now refers to), i think you can safely go up/down 1 rim size. So an older T31, that came with 16" rims, can legally go up to 17" (you can't fit 15" to any T31). Later T31's that came with 17" can go to 16"/18"... and the luxury 18" models can go to 17"/19" (or potentially 16" if their tyre placard had a 17" size on it).nondisclosed_email@example.com (konazz)Tue, 20 Oct 2015 15:36:14 +0000 Re: Thinking about oversized tyres on T31https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2089369,from=rss#post2089369https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2089369,from=rss#post2089369So in Qld, what was the ruling? I am assuming that under the condition you simply buy larger tyres othe existing steel OEM rims, then 7% would be fine? Also, I find it interesting that different rules seem to apply to different rim sizes. If you look on your tyre placard (mine anyway) they have OEM sizes for both the 16" steel and the 17" alloy. My assumption would be that the larger rims would simply relate to the "higher class" of the model. So why should it matter if aftermarket rims are smaller or larger? Secondly, rim size shouldn't make the overall difference when talking about OD. So long as the OD complies with the law. Does that mean I couldn't go to 18" rims? Yet the newer model XTrails starred to come out with 18"s. I would also like to point out that technically my current tyre size doesn't fit in the original housing in the boot, even deflated. As for the Speedo subject, the 48mm increase has actually adjusted corrected my speed (relative to 2 independent GPS units) to 100%. I.e. It's now spot on :-) Just my two cents. $100 rims! Sound like a good buy :-)nondisclosed_email@example.com (Twin mobile)Sat, 17 Oct 2015 19:36:52 +0000 Re:https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2089361,from=rss#post2089361https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2089361,from=rss#post2089361What happens to the speedo reading?nondisclosed_email@example.com (valkie)Sat, 17 Oct 2015 09:10:04 +0000 Re: Thinking about oversized tyres on T31https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2089181,from=rss#post2089181https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2089181,from=rss#post2089181quote:Twin mobile wrote: That looks nice and mean now ... If one could phrase it that way. I have the same tyres (and size) on the original steel rims. I like the black colour and I would consider upgrading our Exy with the same, as I think it would contrast well against our pearl white car with dark window tint. Although the boss has expressed how much she doesn't like the idea of black rims. Anyway ... Can I ask how much just the rims set you back? When I looked to upgrade our rims with our tyres at the time our options were around $160. Not something I could justify t the time. The "raker", which I think over owners have used in a black powder I think would have suited well. Thanks Twin, Yeah id say they would look awesome on a white Xtrail. I paid $100 each for the rims.  which i thought was pretty good. nondisclosed_email@example.com (mants)Fri, 02 Oct 2015 11:00:25 +0000 Re:https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2089156,from=rss#post2089156https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2089156,from=rss#post2089156Ok. For those stepping down to 16" - as long as your new rim stays within the guidelines of VSI06 Item 14, then VSI06 Item 13 will apply. NSW X-trail owners can increase their overall diameter by 7% as long as - OD is +/- 7% - if changing rims, then width remains within 25mm of OEM - load rating is the same or higher - speed rating is the same or higher. You're good to go. So for those sticking with 17", its 225/65/17 and those going to 16" its 235/70/16, before you have to worry about scrubbing or ADR18 (speedo variance). Please note the above only applies to NSW. In ACT/NT/SA - VSB No.14 Section LS applies in full, and we're capped at 15mm as we're not 'designed for off-road use' (the discussion I had was that we lacked low range... but a previous model manual Forester with 1:1.2 transfer case was ok). nondisclosed_email@example.com (konazz)Fri, 25 Sep 2015 16:07:07 +0000 Re:https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2089153,from=rss#post2089153https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2089153,from=rss#post2089153For NSW X-trailers I have received official confirmation about the overlap between VSI09 Page 2 (15mm) and VSI06 Item 13 (7%). 7% overrides the old 15mm rule. Happy to send the response to anyone who would like a copy of it for legal purposes. Maybe Jalal can make a link to keep on the forum? But there's a bit of a spanner which I'm clearing up - essentially if you modify the wheel/rim (going from 17" to 16"), then according to Item 14 of VSI06, your has to be covered by VSI09, meaning you're now 15mm above the 17" OD, not 7% (which is only for OEM wheels). I'm waiting to hear back from a technical person I've been dealing with at NSW RMS to see whether VSI09 applies if you drop to 16".nondisclosed_email@example.com (konazz)Fri, 25 Sep 2015 12:29:31 +0000 Re: Thinking about oversized tyres on T31https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2089145,from=rss#post2089145https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2089145,from=rss#post2089145That looks nice and mean now ... If one could phrase it that way. I have the same tyres (and size) on the original steel rims. I like the black colour and I would consider upgrading our Exy with the same, as I think it would contrast well against our pearl white car with dark window tint. Although the boss has expressed how much she doesn't like the idea of black rims. Anyway ... Can I ask how much just the rims set you back? When I looked to upgrade our rims with our tyres at the time our options were around $160. Not something I could justify t the time. The "raker", which I think over owners have used in a black powder I think would have suited well.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Twin mobile)Thu, 24 Sep 2015 17:26:27 +0000 Re:https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2089144,from=rss#post2089144https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2089144,from=rss#post2089144Got my new rims and tyres fitted. Ive gone with black king 16" rims and Bridgestone D697 tyres in 235 70 16 Overall really happy with the way it looks and cant wait to hit the tracks nondisclosed_email@example.com (mants)Thu, 24 Sep 2015 11:45:51 +0000