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Date Registered: 01-2008
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Re: BlackThunda NSW Meet-up 12-07-2008


Good photos guys. I won't be able to add mine (or view the videos) until the modem comes for my broadband. Sorry.

I had a fantastic time and I am glad you all did. I am pleased that my enthusiasm for the rough stuff did not scare you off and am very impresses with the standard-height exys' performances. I actually think that Jamie takes 'origin braging rights' for getting up that really rough hill with standard height when others with extra clearance turned back. It was an amazing effort that I did not think was doable.

On tyre: I was running 28psi. Lower would have given a bit more grip over the rocks but also a bit less clearance. It also would mean driving slower so that rim/tyre are not damaged bashing into rocks.

As to damage, I got a hefty dent in the muffler going through that deep mud hole right at the end. It must have broken something inside the muffler because when idling in drive (but standing still) it had a deep note like there is a hole in the muffler, but it disappears at any other flow of exhaust.

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More photos...

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After an inspection under the car during daylight today, and having cleared a few HANDFULS of chunks of dried mud from the front of the bashplate, I have seen how much damage the bashplate has prevented reaching the critical engine parts such as the air conditioner compressor, the 90degree bend in the exhaust under the pre-cat, and the SUMP!

I really should take the bashplate off and inspect further as I can see through the gaps that the heatshield over the bottom of the pre-cat has been bent and/or the entire exhaust is bent and touching the front-to-rear cross-member next to it, and also it is touching the bashplate (it looks like the bashplate has pushed the exhaust towards the centre of the car).

Here are the photos of the bashplate. You can see how mangled it now is (it was perfectly straight before!), and now the exhaust actually protrudes through the hole I cut into the bashplate earlier this year, and also notice the chunks I took out of the bottom of the nudge bar. I think I even managed to dent the front-to-rear cross-member, too!

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Now just to go through 25 video clips and pick the best ones of them to shrink and attach...


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Wow...the pics in this thread are perhaps the best forum trip photos that I have seen. Rich, you had your wheels chewing the air so often, anyone would think you were trying to save tyre wear!! emoticon LOL

The total damage bill from the trip is a bit of a worry though....... emoticon

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quote:

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The total damage bill from the trip is a bit of a worry though....... emoticon



Yep you are right there Dave,

I am pretty sure there are some new dents under my car, I plan to have a closer look this evening plus the damage to my tyre, which I will probably replace.

We all pushed the limits a bit on Saturday and you could do that trip without damage if you were abit more careful and took it a bit more slowly.

More fun to just go nuts though, whens the next one!!!

Damage can be repaired and the memories last forver ( :



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quote:

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Damage can be repaired and the memories last forever ( :




A good saying but it depends on the size of the damage and the $$$ coming out of your pocket repairing it. That can be a long lasting memory too, but not a pleasant one emoticon I still dream about my dead diff as a result of the fun I had on the dyno for a whole day. hehehehe emoticon

We can all have fun off-roading and in a safe manner, but when it comes to trashing your pride and joy and your investment which one paid top dollar for and probably using it as the family car, it becomes a bit costly and un-safe at the same time.

I am not saying that you guys didn't have a great day, it certainly looked like you all had plenty of fun, am just saying that it would have been better to take it a bit more carefully and the bangs and jumps I have seen through the pics and vids, certainly gave me the impression that it was "demolition derby" that day emoticon



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Videos!


http://www.datazap.net/sites/basshead/xtrail/2008-07-12_BlackThunda/Alex_uphill_stage1.wmv 2.3MB

http://www.datazap.net/sites/basshead/xtrail/2008-07-12_BlackThunda/Alex_uphill_stage2.wmv 1.3MB

http://www.datazap.net/sites/basshead/xtrail/2008-07-12_BlackThunda/Alex_uphill_stage3.wmv 1.0MB

http://www.datazap.net/sites/basshead/xtrail/2008-07-12_BlackThunda/Chris_downhill.wmv 2.3MB

http://www.datazap.net/sites/basshead/xtrail/2008-07-12_BlackThunda/Jamie_mud_puddle.wmv 800kb

http://www.datazap.net/sites/basshead/xtrail/2008-07-12_BlackThunda/Jamie_uphill_stage2_att1.wmv 6.5MB

http://www.datazap.net/sites/basshead/xtrail/2008-07-12_BlackThunda/Jamie_uphill_stage2_att3.wmv 1.1MB

http://www.datazap.net/sites/basshead/xtrail/2008-07-12_BlackThunda/Jamie_uphill_stage3_att1.wmv 2.1MB

http://www.datazap.net/sites/basshead/xtrail/2008-07-12_BlackThunda/Jamie_uphill_stage3_att2.wmv 3.5MB

http://www.datazap.net/sites/basshead/xtrail/2008-07-12_BlackThunda/Jamie_uphill_stage3_att3.wmv 1.5MB

http://www.datazap.net/sites/basshead/xtrail/2008-07-12_BlackThunda/Jamie_uphill_stage3_att4.wmv 1.1MB

http://www.datazap.net/sites/basshead/xtrail/2008-07-12_BlackThunda/Paul_mud_puddle.wmv 900kb

http://www.datazap.net/sites/basshead/xtrail/2008-07-12_BlackThunda/Paul_uphill_stage1.wmv 1.9MB

Edit: deleted link to Paul's "stage 2" video as per admin request.



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quote:

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A good saying but it depends on the size of the damage and the $$$ coming out of your pocket repairing it. That can be a long last memory too, but not a pleasant one emoticon....





Hmmm, I when I was driving home today the engine warning light flashed on and off a couple of times but then stopped. Just before that it did not engage third properly.

Better have a closed look underneath latte emoticon

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Paul,

What else can you expect after doing that climb emoticon

Sounds like you have hit the transfer case pretty hard and also the main shaft. Just make sure that shaft coupling has all the bolts still attached to it. The check engine light could be related to damaging the sensor that is located under the transmission box emoticon

What amazed me though after seeing these videos is that not single one of you had guidance in regards to wheel placement and the best path to take and you all seem to be tackling such a rough terrain with such speed and force that it is just painful to watch emoticon

I always say what I think in all honesty and maybe in a less diplomatic way that you guys would have hoped to hear, but this trip and the damage resulting from it to your cars (and I would tally up the damage bill from all those who have damaged their exy in this trip) is NOT fun and is NOT what our forum is about!

I can only imagine newbies watching these videos and thinking we're a bunch of xtrailers that are gathered here to find ways to demolish our cars and then have a laugh about it. Sorry guys, but we're not here to give that impression and scare people of.

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I can understand your concerns, Jalal, but there was certainly ALOT of discussion in regards to the lines to take. It was only evident from Chris' video - you could hear all the commotion across the CB radios - a couple of people that were spectating were also carrying their handhelds and offering guidance - all the while, maintaining a safe distance off the track.

I personally chose not to tackle the terrain that Alex, Paul & Jamie attempted - mainly because I had lowered my tyre pressures so much that I had substantially reduced my clearance, as I mentioned numerous times over the radio that I had bottomed-out on many sections of track that no-one else had reported they bottomed-out on. Although under normal circumstances lowering pressure would assist in traction, in this case, clearance and the size of the "steps" in the track was the main problem. As mentioned earlier in this thread, Paul's springs were too bouncy to maintain tyre contact with the ground. His first attempt was much slower and you can see and hear the wheels spinning. I am sure it was not his intention to bounce as much as he did on the 2nd attempt!



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I reckon as long as you all had fun it doesn't matter... Jalal, not eveyrone has spent $20K (extra) on their X-Trail in the first place so a bit of a ding here and there isn't going to hurt them as much as you emoticon

And as others have mentioned... there were ways around to avoid such damage so it wasn't as if they were led into dangerous situations - they were all conscious decisions... so I say good on yas!



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