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Date Registered: 09-2004
Location: Lambton ( Newcastle)
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Thanks Jalal
Your advice is taken & we will consider our options over next few days. Dissapointing about the trade in price but i guess the market is down & new cars are cheaper now than 6-7 years ago. Thanks again for your advice.

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Date Registered: 09-2004
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Hi folks
Just received verbal quote from local Brake & Clutch service for supply & fit of clutch to our exy. it was $2300. The fellow who quoted it said they would put a solid fly wheel in it & said it would be much better ( ? ) than the duel mass one that is in it. He has replaced clutches in several exys & also other makes & models with the same fly wheel & seemed to know what he was talking about. He said a lot of vehicles have the duel mass flywheel /rubber inserts & his company always replaced them with solid ones. He did not know why the car manufacturers were using the duel mass flywheel but he was happy with it as he was making money replacing them. Still undecided about new clutch or new car.

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Date Registered: 06-2008
Location: Blue Mountains, NSW
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Just a word of caution, it is possible that you will get a little bit of vibration with the solid flywheel.
Some T30's that have them installed have experienced some kind of vibration.
Yes it is a better and longer lasting set up, but talk to your mechanic regarding the vibration.

You could be lucky and get no vibration at all.

Tony

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Date Registered: 09-2004
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Thanks Tony for your advice. Will discuss it with the mechanic at the time of replacement of the clutch. Still unsure what to do but a new car would be nice, "Minister for Finance" will no doubt have the final say if we get a new clutch or a new car.

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Date Registered: 08-2005
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The Dreaded X-trail clutch issue,
I thought I was going down this path a few months ago but with a bit of investigation I found it to be the master cylinder. I was at a set of traffic lights in gear with clutch in and started moving forward so I knocked it out of gear and stabbed the clutch and selected 1st gear and all was good until I reached a hill where it seem to slip it was and it was a very hot day got to my location did what I had to do and got in car and drove off forgetting that I had a clutch issue pulled up a a set of lights again and the car started creeping forward fixed it the same way by stabbing the clutch. The next day at work I checked the clutch fluid and it failed so that night I replaced the fluid with a pressure bleeder and didn't have a issue for weeks thinking that all was good and it wasn't the clutch. Well then it happened again the creeping, I tested the fluid again just to satisfy myself all good, rang a mate he said master cylinder priced a rebuild kit to dear bought one on ebay new ($68) overseas and they have sold bucket loads of them it seems that the oil passes the plunger slowly but if you stab your clutch it flares and holds fluid but then will still bypass the plunger slowly, If you push your clutch in very slowly with your hand or foot but can do it better with hand while car is going then with hand brake on and clear area in front of you put pressure on gear lever it should go in gear unless oil is bypassing plunger in master cyl then it will grate this is what I had . To this day have not had the problem again but could have swore it was the clutch just lucky it wasn't $$$$$$$

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Date Registered: 09-2010
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Hi all,

As a newbie to exies and this forum, I'm a little overwhelmed by the various thoughts, as well as confused by the options. It seems the standard clutch is crappy!

According to Nissan Randwick (Sydney), my clutch is on its last legs, and they recommend a replacement which they quoted at $3300!!!!!!!

The clutch hasnt started slipping yet, and I havent noticed any smell, but it does engage at the end of the pedal (the top end away from the floor).

Can I simply replace the clutch without replacing the flywheel and other assorted parts for a cheaper outcome?

If I have to replace everything is there a heavy duty option that will work better and longer (I do go off road a little - occasionally on sand, and I tow a boat 750kg occasionally also).

If i do upgrade to heavy duty, can I get one for cheaper than the $3300 nissan are quoting for the standard?

Thanks in advance.

Glenn

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Date Registered: 06-2008
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Hi Glenn,
Yes the Nissan clutch is an expensive item but there are aftermarket clutch kits available for the T30 and would cost you half the Nissan price.
The only problem with the aftermarket clutch is that you may experience a slight vibration on idle although its hit and miss. Some cars get it and others don't.
Just pop into a local brake and clutch specialist to get some prices.

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HERE is my old 2008 T31, ST Series1

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Date Registered: 09-2010
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Hey Tony, thanks for your reply, its a steep learning curve, I never thought I'd end up becoming a clutch enthusiast!

Is this aftermarket clutch a heavy duty one? Is it a solid flywheel or dual mass? Are these the only types? Which one is best?

How long does a clutch generally last in the X Trail under normal driving conditions? (mostly city, occasional 4x4, 1-2 yearly sand, occasional boat towing).

Does this vibration you and others have mentioned affect driving or performance, or is it just a little annoying when you're sitting at the lights? Are we talking a little vibration or will my friends gasp and laugh at me!?

I know I ask alot of questions for a newbie! but any help at all would be appreciated, thanks,

Glenn



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Date Registered: 06-2008
Location: Blue Mountains, NSW
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The solid flywheel is the way to go and you can choose, standard or a heavy duty clutch.

The clutch should last for 150000kms or so depending on your driving style, mine only lasted 43000kms in my T31, thats why I know a fair bit. Of course Nissan didn't cover it under warranty.

The vibration is only on idle and is more a nuisance noise or slight rattle.

Hope this helps Glenn.

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HERE is my old 2008 T31, ST Series1

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Date Registered: 07-2009
Location: Central Queensland
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cooch t31 wrote:
The vibration is only on idle and is more a nuisance noise or slight rattle.



hmm does it sound like the number plate rattle? ;for the slight rattle sound or different?

I have the sound similar to a number plate rattle, but I don't think it is that. There are no other unusual sounds when idling at the lights or driving. And it doesn't always happen.
Also the clutch doesn't feel like it is 'going', as I have driven 4wd's with bad/damaged clutchs' before.

Very wierd.



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