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Date Registered: 01-2009
Location: QLD, Australia
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HI, I am currently upgrading my clutch and flywheel to a solid flywheel and heavy duty clutch. I get the car back on Monday. After recent experiences, solid flywheel and a heavy duty clutch is the only way to go. Dual mass flywheels are not a good setup for this vehicle

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Date Registered: 11-2008
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Ok i need some opinions...

what should i save up for first, the clutch and flywheel combo, or the greddy piggyback ecu?

the clutch issue will only get worse with the added power of the greddy, but the up side if the computer is the fuel economy might be a bit more favourable...

what should be my priority?

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Sorry Cam,

This is not the thread to be dragging the piggy-back ECUs into.

You can ask this question in your members ride thread.

Let's leave this thread on the topic of clutches and their upgrades.

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Upgrading the clutch to a solid flywheel and heavy duty clutch is the only way to go. The original genuine setup is no good for offroad capabilities. Mine is fantastic and better than it was before with much quicker response time when engaging. IF your considering upgrading the clutch dont waste your money on the origninal setup.

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This was also confirmed to me by the dealer (un-officially) who said they're getting MANY xtrails in with early clutch wear and problems.

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Date Registered: 11-2008
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something ive noticed over the last few weeks just thought id share...

you may recall the discussion on our electronic throttle and its tendency to cause the revs to jump in between gear changes. (see here and here )

from what im thinking, this maybe what is causing premature wear on our poor clutches.
jalal said:
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This was also confirmed to me by the dealer (un-officially) who said they're getting MANY xtrails in with early clutch wear and problems.



i think whats happening is between gear changes, the revs are jumping up for half a second before they fade down, forcing the clutch to slow the flywheel down to the gear box's speed, rather than the revs dropping off to meet said speed.

also cos it feels like our stock clutch isnt really that strong, needs a stronger clamping force, its only about ~680kgs at stock and thats not that much for a 4wd, especially one as powerful as x-trails.


yeh just thought id share thoughts.

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Hi Hiimkam
After my experience, I would not rely on the stock clutch for off-road use. It hardly stands up for on-road driving. THe end of the day they are all made to a price.

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Date Registered: 11-2008
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agreed.

no wonder mine is wearing out pretty quick
ive got enough power to get me to 100km in 8.8 secs (i timed the other dayemoticon)
and those fast gear changes are hell to that clutch.

but why do they have to be so dam expensive!
arrrrhhhh!.

Cam.

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The reason they are expensive is the dual mass flywheel. In most instances when a clutch is burnt out it also damages the dual mass flywheel due to overheating and then they buckle. They cannot handle excessive heat, not really a good set up for a 4WD. I dont have that problem with that setup anymore as I have a solid flywheel and a heavy duty clutch on my Exy. Worth every cent.

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Date Registered: 06-2008
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Shane
All patrols have dual mass pressure plate which suit 4wds to the ground.
The purpose of them is to prevent shudder on take off, the small amount of twist they have absorbs this.
Where as a dual mass flywheel, I'm not so sure why Nissan they would even bother.
The pressure plate is a lot cheaper to replace than the flywheel.

Last edited by cooch t31, 27/Mar/2009, 5:20 am


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