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Date Registered: 02-2011
Location: Caboolture, QLD
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Hi Todd,
           I've been looking for info on the DMF since your problem forced you out of the Woolgoolga trip. Before you go cutting into it, have a look at this excellant youtube video of worn and not worn. See it here.
It is a part of this larger acticle here.. I couldn't understand where the rattling was coming from but after watching the video, i now see how that can happen.

Cheers
John

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Date Registered: 08-2011
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I've actually seen that article before John. Yeah so basically the internals of the flywheel have fallen to bits. My argument was that this shouldn't happen before the clutch wears out but Nissan wouldn't have a bar of it. My aim with cutting it open is to find exactly what failed.

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Hi Todd,
          Any chance of making a small video like the one shown before you give it the cut and shut. A lot of people, myself at the top of that list, would like to see what the Xtrail DMF looks like and whether the failure is left / right lateral caused by the central bearing failure or that the disc bonding compound has parted giving the excessive radial failure. Might also help your case if you go ahead with it.

John

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Date Registered: 08-2011
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I definitely plan on documenting everything John.

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Date Registered: 08-2011
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So here is the video of the flywheel. Movement should be around 1-2mm and it should spring back to position.


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That's a fair bit Todd, when do you plan on taking it apart?
Mine also had up and down movement, does yours? ( place hands on either edge of the radius and rock up and down.

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Hi Todd,
           Thanks for the exceptional video but unfortunately expensive video. It appears thought the disc bonding agent has completely let go allowing all that movement. Where do you go from here?

John

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Yeah Tony there is some movement up and down but very little.

John I reckon the springs and/or bearings inside are shot. That's where the movement is coming from. I will cut it open in the next week or so and see exactly what is going on.

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Date Registered: 10-2010
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Hi guys, well it appears that our clutch has had it, smells really bad. Yesterday I drove the car down the beach to load up 3 kayak's (150kg max) on out 6x4 trailer, trying to get back up the beach (was really loose fine rocks/sand) the car would stop in the sand as I would give it more gas. That's when the clutch smelled horrible. Really couldn't believe that it was struggling to get back up.

So after having read the entire thred, I have a couple of questions.

Firstly what is the best upgrade for us as we do a good amount of towing (1.5-2t)?
In the thread it's mened that the t30 are a solid mass flywheel, extremeclutch.com.au has the t30 and t31 as a dual mass.
http://www.xtremeclutch.com.au/catalogue/x_main.htm

Is it possible to find out what flywheel i have without removing the box? is the inspection plate easily removable?

thanks all


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Your T30 will have a dual mass flywheel. Best to read this entire thread to check on possible single mass flywheel upgrades. there is definitely options available to you.

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