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Date Registered: 02-2004
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I don't mean to point the finger (ok, perhaps I do), but if you're 100% certain yourself or any other regular drivers (wife, etc) haven't caused this, and you've had it since new, and only just noticed it recently, it is possible that a dealership mechanic did it while taking it for a routine test-drive after a service (I've had a previous car damaged while being reversed onto a hoist - while I was standing there watching it!). Have you always had it serviced at the same place? It's possible it was caused by a mechanic, and the incident not reported to you, in the hope you wouldn't notice it. There may not be a record of the incident on their books, either.

It's not the sort of damage that could be sustained while the car was parked at a shopping mall for example, without any other damage being caused to the car.

Possible further inspection of the bent strut may be able to prove if it's recent or old damage. I am surprised the bent strut wasn't noticed during the wheel alignment(s).

As others have said, a few of us have pushed our X-Trails pretty hard off-road, and haven't caused any such damage. I'd also be interested in knowing if it was bent forward/backward (which may indicate large pot-hole or gutter hit at speed) or sideways (impact from sliding) which I think would be more difficult as you'd need nasty conditions or a hopeless driver to get the tail end out!


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Just had a look at the photo and compared it with my car (ST-S 40th Anniversary).
It looks to me as if it has been bent outwards!
How could you do that by hitting a curb?
As there are other suspension arms connected to the rear axle, wouldn't they be bent as well if it was the result of hitting a curb or other object?

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It occurred to me that probably the easiest way to cause this sort of bend would be to tie the car down on a car transporter with chains pulled way too tight and obviously around the suspension instead of the towing points! I wouldn't mind betting that's what happened....


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Thank you to those who had responded to my little delema.

I will attempt to answer some of the questions asked.

Re the tyre wear, unfortunately the wheels have been rotated regularly so there is no specific evidence of excessive wear on any 1 wheel

What ever caused this bend, it did not result in any damage to the alloy rims. I am running 16 inch rims with 65 profile tyres.

The bend is in fact outwards, as if the travel of the wheel had been exceeded and then some. I can see no other component damaged, though I am not an expert.

I will attemp to post an appropriate photo soon, as even with max adjustment on the wheel allignment it is still quite obvious.

There is not fracture of any weld on the strut, and the paintwork is not "cracked" as I would has expected.

The vehicle has always been serviced by the dealership from where I purchased it new, though this is about to change! They say that it could not have happened during a service, but who knows?

A replacement strut from a wrecker is $175, but I cant find out any history as to age etc. Certainly more attractive though then the genuine Nissan supplied part.

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It's looking more and more like it's either a manufacturing defect, or caused during transport, especially that you mention there has been no damage to any wheels.



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Hi guys, I see this is an old topic but i only just discovered it as i'm having troubles with one of my rear struts at the moment. But that's the second part of my tale, the first part is after reading of Pauls woes and the comments on this thread i'm sorry to burst your bubbles but the struts do bend - easily! It wasn't any manufacturing defect!

I had the EXACT same thing happen to my '06 X trail several years ago and could not believe how simply it could happen! My L plate daughter was simply leaving our driveway and easing off to turn left after waiting for traffic to pass. Whilst turning left (at about 3k's an hour!) she managed to miss the concrete kerb on her left (couldn't see it when she was parked beside it waiting) but the back wheel hooked it and climbed over.

The kerb was quite high but low enough to pass under the body just (say 10 inches high) and it really should not have been a problem except that it was very sharp square edged concrete and cut the tyre and my nice new mags! After getting a new tyre we then discovered the wheel was leaning out in the top quite a lot and the problem was the strut had bent exactly as in Pauls photo! After discovering how lightly built the whole undercarraige is I'm surprised at how many X trail owners give 'em a good bush bashing and this does not happen more often.

Like Paul discovered at the time a new strut was going to cost around $900 , so I decided to see if it could be straightened. Nothing to lose, if it breaks i'll get a new one i thought. I took it to a mechanic mate and we set it up in his press and after a few tentative goes and several R & R had it straight again. No sign of any binding through the stroke etc. so in she went and 5 years later still no problems!! We could get a pretty good idea for getting the camber right by simply putting a straight edge vertically over the tyre and lining it up with the body work above (using the good R/H side as a guide). No tyre wear issues so there was a happy ending to that story!

Now for the second part of my tale! Currently i have a rattle / knock coming from the R/H rear (the damaged strut was L/H rear) which has been very difficult to track down but it seems it is an internal problem in the shocker strut (Nissan dealers opinion). The noise has been gradually getting worse over the last few months and sort of sounds like an exhaust pipe knocking against the body (its not). It can happen on small bumps or even when there appears to be no bumps? Weird! If it had of been the previously damaged shocker rattling i would understand but it's not.

Has anyone experienced this rattle and is there a remedy that doesnt cost the earth for a new strut? Are there any companies who can dissasemble these things?



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The rattle you're describing is wheel bearing related. Check your rear wheel bearings.

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Thanks Jalal,

It sure is unusaul for a bearing noise but i will check. The annoying thing is that i sent it to the dealer last week and specifically asked they check hub etc. but they didn't check that! To me it sounds like an intermittant knocking against the hub or diff housing which resonates through the body.

Any reason you reckon its the bearing?

Peter

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Am hearing the same noises now in my T30 but from the front right and I have changed the front bearings at 100K service, so the new ones only lasted 25,000kms. The quality of the Nissan bearings is very very poor and they're prone to failures (more than once). Jack the car up and see if you get any free play in the rear wheel when you hold the tyre at 12 and 6 o'clock.

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Interesting . . . . I thought i was hearing things of late because i suspect a similar noise is starting from the F / left. Starting to sound like chitty chitty bang bang haha.

Better check it out a.s.a.p.

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