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Date Registered: 06-2008
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I agree with most of what you say but you are referring to use them on a bush track not a race circuit.
I can't see the blocks falling out on bitumen cause they will compress more than extend the shock.
In the scrub, usually the coil will extend rather than compress.

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Date Registered: 05-2010
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Agreed - that's why I said "Jack up the rear and insert the correct size that are tight - repeat for front".

ie you insert them when the spring is already extended and you use the correct size that is a tight fit when extended - then they won't fall out and will also lift the car an inch or two.

Totally agree that a good set of new springs etc for the lift is a much better way to go; but as a temporary and much cheaper fix some people might find them useful for those odd unforseen occasions when the going is a bit more of a challenge than anticipated.

Given all that I can also agree that they won't survive as a permanent lift and in the rough some will fall out or get knocked out.

They were all the go as I said a few decades ago in the bush and those using them in sedans loved them.

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Has anyone counted the number of coil turns on a T31 spring ?
I know when I went to use a set of coil clamps on my T30 to lower it there were only about 3 coil turns and this did not give any position where the clamps could stay without smashing into either the top or bottom coil seat.
If the springs on the T31 are the same then none of these things would work either.

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The springs on the rear are only about 5 or 6 turns, they are really stumpy. The front coils would be similar to those of a T30.

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The front springs seem to have about 3 turns and the blocks wouldn't really work there; the 2", or thereabout, spiral ones would appear to be ideal - if they didn't fall out.

The rear springs look like mini-block springs ie when fully compressed the coil ends fit inside the middle coils thereby requiring less space and more travel for a shortish spring.

The rubber blocks might work; but may collide with the spring ends on full compression.

Have to have a real good look and measure everything, decide what to buy and have a go.

Wife has my money all collered for Xmas so have to wait a month or two !!!!!!



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Date Registered: 01-2011
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Has anyone fitted replacement/lifted springs themselves in a diesel?
If so, how did you go etc?

cheers for any info.

philip

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I tow my race car trailer quite often, and the wife using the xtrail (diesel T31) most of the time to run around town. So it is a bugger as it rides really well around town, but it is like I am driving up hill when towing the trailer.
Thought about heavier springs and look at the spacer blocks others have suggested here. And decided to make up my own air bag helper springs, as there are no kits that I could find.
Took a couple of weeks to sort out, and fitted them today.
Appear to work well, but will have to see how they go with towing the trailer.
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Towed the trailer today worked a treat, pumped it up to 20psi and it leveled the xtrail out perfectly. It towed a lot better too, I think it didn't bounce as much or something. Forgot to take some photos, sorry. Very happy for a $150 modification, especially when you consider the cost of replacement springs and the effect they can have on the cars unloaded comfort levels.
Happy to supply the kit if needed, and fit to Xtrails in the Adelaide area (say $250 fitted).
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Thats great that it worked out for you Dave, in the previous post with the photo it looks as if the air bag is creased, is this cause its deflated, or is it the way its sits in the spring.

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The crease is just after I installed it, I hadn't inflated it at that point.
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