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Date Registered: 06-2008
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The T31 has a wishbone type system at the back. If it is raised up more than say 50mm, then it may require some serious adjustment to the control arm.
To my knowledge the T30 has a Mcphereson strut on the rear.
I maybe wrong but before I had my suspension in, I always looked at the rear to see what wlse I can do, ie; body lift etc.

Only time will tell, maybe a whole new aftermarket control arm is on the cards.


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Cheers for the reply Tony...havent spent much time underneath a T31, so that puts a different picture in my head.
Will be interesting to see what the result is

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..... they ARE developing the kit (after measuring dave and rox's car yesterday, thanks guys emoticon )



I wouldn't be holding my breath too long, Ashley. I took my exy over to them shortly after I bought mine and was told that unless they had a large number of inquiries, they wouldn't spend the time and effort to manufacture a kit for a few.

But that was a while ago, and perhaps they've had more members approach them.

Here's hoping emoticon


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davnrox, have you had any further contact with superior regarding the lift?

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Yep we popped in there the other day and looks like they are going to jerk us around "yes we are going to do it and we want your car but not until we get more orders" as Stephen said. We ended up going to Pedders who at first thought they wouldn't be able to help us as the coils on the rear weren't the norm. sent us away and called us back an hour later and said they had a coil that would work and we are getting a 35-40mm lift off them on friday (ready for sundays trip). Our main thing too was Superior did inform us that the strut lift was illegal, and although our insurance company would cover it, we didn't want to take the risk. Working for the Qld police (I see this happen so often) I didn't want to risk being involved in an accident then having the police get involved (if that was the case) and have them say the modification was illegal. Even though it was on my insurance the insurance company wouldn't end up covering the costs. We will just get the 35-40mm lift and then put some slightly bigger tyres on without going over the top.

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Posted by Robbo0001 - Moved from another thread
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Here is a link from 4wd Action that gives some of the latest info for you guys in NSW.
If it happens in NSW, it will probably happen in other states...feel free to drop the Honourable Minister an email, if you are that way inclined.
If you agree with him...good on you, thats your call.
If you dont...send him an email.
I did, and I dont even live there

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Hi Guys,

The NSW regulation changes which were supposed to take effect on the 1st of August, 2009 are now ON HOLD as confirmed by the minister of roads in the following media release letter:

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NEWS RELEASE
MINISTER AGREES TO FURTHER CONSULTATION ON
CAR MODIFICATION LAWS
Wednesday 29 July 2009
Minister for Roads Michael Daley today met with representatives from the 4WD community and car industry who asked for the introduction of proposed vehicle modification rules to be delayed and for more time to consult.
Mr Daley said he agreed to put the rule changes on hold and that more consultation was needed following the meeting.
“I’ve listened to feedback from the industry and the community, and have agreed to set up a working party to look more closely at how we are going to address this road safety issue,” he said.
“All of those who attended today’s meeting agreed that safety is paramount and that unsafe modifications of vehicles do need be stamped out.
“The working group will include representatives from the NSW Centre for Road Safety, Four Wheel Drive NSW-ACT, Australian Automotive Aftermarket Association, the Australian 4WD Industry Council as well as other agencies and experts,” Mr Daley said.
Executive Director of Australian Automotive Aftermarket Association Stuart Charity said this was a terrific outcome.
“We’re passionate about road safety and we understand the intent of the regulation is to make the roads safer,” he said.
We’re looking forward to working towards a practical solution that meets road safety objectives while also taking industry views into account,” Mr Charity said.
Greg Redfern from Four Wheel Drive NSW-ACT also welcomed the outcome and said the working group would have their full support.
“We want to eliminate unsafe practices in the driving community and we’ll work with the government to make sure these new regulations meet those objectives without any adverse consequences for the motoring community at large,” he said.
“We all agree that there is no place for extreme and illegal modifications, but the clubs in our association follow a strict code of conduct and ethics, and we want to make sure they’re not punished,” Mr Redfern said.






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Good news for you Blues supporters. At least for the moment anyway. Might be off the radar at your State level for awhile, unless they start doing more back-room deals. And I though Anna B.Lie was a crock.

For your info4wd Action VSI Link

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Back in the 1970's you could buy rubber blocks to insert in the springs to Temporarily lift your car before going through rough stuff in the bush.

These are similar:
COIL SPRING BOOSTERS: you would only need 2 per spring and mounted opposite each other to prevent the spring deflecting to one side.



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THIS LINK

I haven't seen them in Australia for a long time but just noticed THIS

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available from USA for tweaking race car handling.

The (my) idea is you buy a set for your car, enjoy normal ride height advantages? on the bitumen; but when about to go offroad you jack up the car a bit, insert these rubbers and enjoy temporary increased ride height for very little money or effort.

They didn't fall out or cause any problems that I can recall and gave a car an instant reversable lift when needed.

Also I found THESE available in Australia:

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This is also a good read as you scroll through the page:
where it says:
 "Mr. Gasket Universal Coil Spring Booster has dual grooves to prevent popping out. The design allows easier installation and offers a safe way to restore your car to original height. The 1" lift is the ideal way to raise all coil spring equipped cars without affecting handling or ride. It is packaged individually with "H" cross section. This super coil spring spacer fits into the coil. "

Link here

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Has anyone tried these or have a comment???

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I wouldn't use either of them.
With the boosters, if they went in as easy as he described, it's not going to take much to jar them loose.
If one falls out, then you will damage the coil or even make it snap.

Same with the spacers, but these need the coil lowered from the top to install. If you have standard suspension then no more than a 30mm spacer.
I wouldn't put a spacer in the middle of the coil as shown with the white coloured coil. You greatly reduce the operation of the coil by putting it in the middle.

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I agree to some extent Cooch - but I would use them TEMPORARILY eg I was in Little Desert last month and 1" or so extra height would have made a world of difference in the sand there. Also some water crossings or rocky challenges you might be iffy about without the lift would be possible with them.

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I wouldn't put a spacer in the middle of the coil as shown with the white coloured coil. You greatly reduce the operation of the coil by putting it in the middle.


Only slightly as they compress with the spring (they are available in a range of strengths from soft to hard neoprene rubber)

The only ones I think I would use would be the rubber blocks, 2 per spring ie 8 in total. Correct size is important as the front springs have larger coil gaps than the rear so careful selection of size is important.

Jack up the back and insert blocks just big enough for a tight fit then lower, same at front. Drive the hour or two to get to wherever, then remove them.

Definately not a permanent fix - just a way out for those odd times a bit more clearance is needed.

As I said, they were all the go back in the 50's/60's and they did work fine.

Interestingly, if you follow the links I gave, you'll see the spiral ones are used on race cars to fine tune spring rates and ride height, so they ARE engineered to stay in place and work. They do compress with the spring so you still have spring action.

Read about Here (remembering this link is about race cars on circular tracks)

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