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Date Registered: 02-2004
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Re: Replacement Shocks?


My X-Trail has 90K up now and mechanic tells me that the rear shocks are leaking.

KYB's fitted are $620 & he wants to do the front as well. I've told him to hold off - I couldn't tell that there is a problem from driving the car. He will give me a look when I pick it up. Nissan shocks will be about double the cost.

Does this sound normal for the original shocks?

The price seems OK. It is just the need for them.


A quick rundown - my 2004 ST has 90,00k's

So far:

Replaced front discs & pads & rear pads at 40k
Replaced CV boot
Replaced battery @ 3.5 yrs / 70k
Replaced front pads 90k
Require shocks - 90k?

Somewhere along the way I've replaced a rear muffler as well + tyres / wiper blades as expected.
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Date Registered: 08-2004
Location: Brisbane
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I'd be surprised about replacing the shocks at that mileage unless you do some bumpy dirt road driving, corrugations probably are the worst. A load would make things worse.
I would have thought the fronts would have worn out first!
Still, we are not easy on our xtrail and shocks are still like new at just over 110000km...
I'd probably get a second opinion.

KYB are a good choice if you do have to replace them. You'll probably find that the originals are either made by KYB or Tokico anyway. Make sure they are gas and double-acting ie: the provide damping in both directions, bump and rebound. You'd be surprised how many OEM units aren't.

Koni adjustables would be the best street option. Take note that (unless they've changed) the adjustable bit only changes rebound, not bump.

If you do a fair bit of offroading, or just regularly travel on dirt/gravel roads, the best thing is probably some Bilsteins. You'll need to carefully match a set of springs to them first, but it will be magic. Actually, the springs should be matched to the car, and then the shockies chosen to control the springs: bump and rebound.
The Bilsteins can usually be rebuilt or even revalved if requirements change.



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Date Registered: 03-2008
Location: ACT
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Hi
Has anyone had to replace their shocks on the new model yet? If so what did you go for? I can only find Nissan brand and they are rather pricey.

Thanks
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Date Registered: 08-2006
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This thread has been idle for a while so I hope it's the right place.

Finally got around to replacing the standard shocks on the T30 exy. Have had the pedders spring lift for about 40k now, but the shocks had been leaking for a while (didn't even get 30k out of them!! - Nissan declined warranty claim because of the aftermarket springs). Old shocks were still roadworthy but I decided to upgrade.

Got 4 new pedders gas sportsryders. Combined with the trakryder springs the ride is unbelievable! The ride is firmer but more comfortable as well, if that makes sense. It makes you realise just how awful the stock shocks were.

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Date Registered: 06-2008
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Joel,
Did they replace the shocks with standard height or did you get the longer ones?

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Date Registered: 08-2006
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Good question. I'm not 100% sure, but they didn't mention anything so I assume it was the standard height shocks.

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Date Registered: 10-2010
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Is anyone aware of a foam cell shock for t30's that doesn't need to be custom built? probably looking at a pedders spring lift and sports ryders shocks if i cant find them.

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Date Registered: 06-2015
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I'm planning to fit replacement front and rear struts/shocks to our 2007 T30-II ST-S auto in the near future.

I'd be interested to hear from any T30/T30-II owners who have fitted Nissan OEM, Sachs or Kyb Excel-G struts and shocks.

Use profile for our Exy is 90-95% urban/highway and 5-10% unsealed roads, with no serious offroad stuff.

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Date Registered: 05-2017
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Re: T30 Replacement Shocks? Part numbers, also boots & dust covers


Choice of shocks as of July 2020, Oz market

Note:
1. T30 struts have individual part numbers as they don't interchange left to right, like on many, and not front to rear, but however they do look the same. It is not uncommon for people to mix them up during installation, and have springs 'unperch' themselves later on. So beware, even if sold as front and rear pairs, one will specifically be for the left, and one for the right.
2. Newer production struts can have variable valving at the bottom of the tube to allow the shock to vary rebound rate to better suit the present terrain. This is likely to be better if they are well engineered, QA resourced, etc. Diameter of the shaft, housing thickness, seal quality, fasteners and overall longevity, all vary similarly too. Beware inferior products.
3. When replacing shocks or struts, consider changing the upper strut mounts (the rubber perishes with time and use). You can turn the wheel and inspect the front ones most easily to help you see if they are looking brittle, old or are disintegrating. Change your boots and bumps as you are doing well if they last 7 years. (Often called 'protection kits', these are available separately though vendors can supply them in the box (rare case). More commonly known as 'dust covers', 'boots' and bump stops, they should be specific to the shocks (though generic ones are common), and long lasting ones like the ZF/Sachs ones can set you back quite a few dollars more.

 Front L+R Protection kit:
 Meyle PK: 36 14 640 0001
 Sachs: 900-172

 Rear L+R Protection kit:
 Meyle PK: 36 14 740 0000
 Sachs: 900-160

4. Strut part numbers:

Front Suspension
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Front Left
BOGE: 32-R11-A
GABRIEL*: Ultimate G56828
Japanparts MM-10068
KYB*: Excel-G 334360
Meyle: 36 26 623 0009
NISSAN: 54303K
Pedders: SportsRyder 9470L
SACHS: 11 1500 313 634 (NLA)
SACHS*: 11 1500 317 112
Ultima: 65461L 19mm

Front Right
BOGE: 32-R12-A
GABRIEL*: Ultimate G56829
Japanparts: MM-10069
KYB*: Excel-G 334361
Meyle: 36 26 623 0008
NISSAN: 54302K
Pedders: SportsRyder 9470R
SACHS: 11 1500 313 635 (NLA)
SACHS*: 11 1500 317 113
Ultima: 65460R 19mm

Front L+R pair
Meyle: 36 26 723 0008
MONROE*: GT-Gas 35-0551
TRW-TWIN: 22mm JGM1185T
TRW-TWIN: 22mm JGM9145T


Rear Suspension
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Rear Left
BOGE: 32-Y43-A
GABRIEL*: Ultimate G56830
Japanparts MM-10070
KYB*: Excel-G 334362
Meyle: 36 26 623 0000
NISSAN: 55303K
Pedders: SportsRyder 9471L
SACHS: 11 1500 313 632 (NLA)

SACHS*: 11 1500 318 219
Ultima: not sure

Rear Right
BOGE: 32-Y44-A

GABRIEL*: Ultimate G56831
Japanparts MM-10071
KYB*: Excel-G 334363
Meyle: 36 26 723 0001
NISSAN: 55302K
Pedders: SportsRyder 9471R
SACHS: 11 1500 313 633 (NLA)

SACHS*: 11 1500 318 220
Ultima: not sure
Rear L+R pair
Meyle: 36 26 623 0000
MONROE*: GT-Gas 35-0553
TRW-TWIN: 22mm JGM1183T
TRW-TWIN: 22mm JGM9146T

* Denotes model includes automatic valving that 'senses' terrain to enhance factory rebound rate.
** NLA: No Longer Available

Others I don't know much about, but 'are out there':
Pedders 'Trakryder': now NLA
OME/ARB:
Webco 'ST Series': 16mm (optional bump stop/dust cover kit)
EFS: Imported, likely to be NLA
Koni: (Look to be NLA for T30, however they list fronts for the later Asian diesel T30 '2007-2013' models)
E.g. Comforti (Red), Sportivo (Yellow adjustable), SR-T (Auto)
Bilstein: Do not make any for T30, only T31 in std form (B4).
Note Bilstein makes a very similar product to ZF Aftermarket's. Often their base product is near identical to ZF's (Sachs/Boge/TRW.
TRW product is different to ZF/Sachs/Boge, as their factories were producing shocks (for the US market mainly), long before the aquisition in 2015.

I'll try to keep this up to date to capture all the shocks available for the X-Trail in one place, so make it easier for everyone to source the correct parts. Would be good to add factory and country of manufacture, member comments, and anything else of value.

If you know more, please PM me so I can update the above. Enjoy!

Last edited by roid, 17/Sep/2020, 10:24 pm


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Date Registered: 08-2020
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Thanks for the thorough post Roid! I'm about to replace my front left strut so this is pretty handy. I think I'll just go with factory OEM from Partsouq.com for about $165 ea (plus shipping).

I'll be sure to add the upper strut mounts and boots too.



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