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Date Registered: 08-2007
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FLARING AT IDLE 1700-2500 RPM.


Hi guys im a new member and this is my first post,i have a 02 traily, manual,it has been at the dealer for 1 month and they cant fix it,at idle it flares between 1700-2500 rpm & runs lean at the same time,they said they have reset everything & checked everything they can,but still no good,i might have to take it elsewhere,but has someone else had a similar problem,as i am running a bit short on patients & lack of answers.
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Date Registered: 10-2005
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Re: FLARING AT IDLE 1700-2500 RPM.


Burcho,

 When it 'flares', is this when the engine is cold or warm. How do you know it runs leans, did the consult show this. Did you get any figures from Nissan ??? What about the o2 sensor ???

 Best of luck, hope it gets solved sooner, rather then later.


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Yes it starts to flare about 1 minute after
starting it from cold,dealer said it is running a lambda of 1.25 (perfect lambda is 1.00),they said oxygen sensor is working fine,
  Thanks for your input,hope someone else knows?
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Shane,

If the Lambda reading is more than 1, it suggests that there is a problem with the catalytic converter or the ECU giving the wrong readings.

As your exy is a 2002 model it should have had the catalytic converter recall carried out by the dealer some time ago.

Has this recall been carried out and if you bought your exy second-hand, was it recorded in the service book as done?

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Just bought it second hand & no history to say that the catalytic converter was replaced,it has done 175,000km.What was the reason for the cat recall?How would i know if it was replaced by looking at it?

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Hi Burcho,

You say it flares about 1 minute after starting from cold.

Does it die down to a normal idle after a few minutes ?
Does it flare after every start or does it idle normally when restarted after driving for a while ?

Are you sure what you are experiencing is not the normal warmup function ?

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Have a look at the recalls history thread HERE and check your VIN against all of the recalls for the affected xtrails.

If your exy is affected by any of them, you need to call Nissan Australia to find out if your car had the recall done (sine this information was not given to you by the previous owner)

The cat. converter is part of the manifold, to look at it, the manifold needs to be removed from the engine to check for damage.

After such high number of Kms, there is a high chance your cat. converter started flaking as it is has ceramic core.

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It does it all the time,it takes about 2 seconds in between going from 1700 to 2500 rpm,and just constantly keeps doing it,the rpm never drops below 1700rpm hot or cold,even the dealer has said theres is definately a problem there,they just dont know what it is.
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I would have also suggested that throttle position got messed-up somehow and requires the idle re-learn, but since you have said it's been with them for 1 month, am pretty sure they have already tried that and didn't work.

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Maybe your throttle body is dirty and needs a clean.

Have it looked at then if it is dirty, have it cleaned and the idle relearn done to reset the idle speed.

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