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Date Registered: 02-2004
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I agree that normal servicing will not catch a damaged bearing or a bearing that is on its way out UNLESS you specifically ask them to check the bearings at every service or when grinding noises are present.

I had mine checked yesterday and it wasn't only a visual check. They had the car on the hoist and attached two clamp-on wires to the wheels, these wires were connected to some device and ear-phones for the mechanic to hear any grinding noises if they won't be heard during a test drive.

In my case the grinding noise turned out to be the brake pads not liking the slotted DBA discs emoticon (I'll expand on that in the corresponding thread on the forum)

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Date Registered: 06-2005
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The suggestion that the bearings/hubs fail after about 120,000k is a worry.

At my recent 120,000k service I asked that the bearings be checked and repacked with grease.

I was told that the bearings are a non serviceable item, so repacking can't be done. However, the bearings were checked for wear and noise and found to be ok.



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Date Registered: 01-2008
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Hi Guy's,
  i was just wondering if there has been any more incidents regarding this hub and axle seperation problem I see there has been no comment since November 07.I don't own a Xtrail as yet but I was looking forward to buying one next year but now I am worried about this problem that I have never had on any other car I have owned and I was thinking maybe I should look at something else or do we just change wheel bearings at 110,000ks as par of the course.


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Yes Paul, to be on the safe side, change the bearings at 110,000km or so or have them inspected for abnormal wear and noise.

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Well guys I can confirm that my Exy has done its left front wheel bearing and hub/stub axle. Took the Exy in today to get a service and to get the grinding noise inspected from the left front. I'ts confirmed that the wheel bearing is shot and has irrepairably damaged the hub/stub axel. Only been making a grinding noise for the last couple of days.

Reading the previous posts above is like an echo of what the Nissan Service guy just told me.

I must say for a car thats only just ticked over 83,000ks and never seen any off road action it is a bit of a worry. Not cheap to fix either. I am still trying to calm the wife down.

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Am sorry to hear that Glenn, I suspected you had a shot bearing, but I was hoping you'd catch it in time before the bigger damage emoticon

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I'm sure I've mentioned this before (perhaps in another thrad); It's such a shame that Nissan wouldn't pick up on this problem during their scheduled (also known as "preventative") maintenance... I hardly see how it's preventative if they can't diagnose a problem like that before it gets to the stage that it damages other parts of the vehicle. Convenient for Nissan as they don't then have to replace the part(s) under warranty if they don't pick it up during regular servicing (even if it's a known or common problem, but still don't issue a recall), inconvenient for the loyal customer who then has to pay for expensive repairs at their own cost (and possibly be without a vehicle while repairs are undertaken)


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Rich,

The problem with shot bearings is that Nissan assume everything is right, unless the owner complains about the noise. I don't think it's practical for them to check every exy for shot bearings, although it sounds like a good idea given the fact that it proved to be the weakest point and a cause of serious damage.

Rockdale Nissan stated to me that they have no problems checking the bearings everytime I drop the car for service, so I guess the same can be requested by all owners, so if nothing else, it goes on record and the invoice that the bearings inspection was done.

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Date Registered: 03-2008
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Am sorry to hear that Glenn, I suspected you had a shot bearing, but I was hoping you'd catch it in time before the bigger damage emoticon



Yeah I hoped so too but I did have my doubts after reading about other owners experiences. From what I have read and heard from Nissan you prettty much should not drive the car at the first sign of any noise! Like I said mine has just started doing it in the last couple of days.

I will certainly be asking for a wheel bearing check at each service from now on. It would be interesting to see if the new X-Trail has a similar setup with the hub nut and pin.

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Well I'm in trouble, as I wont be able to hear the noise due to mild-moderate hearing loss, and the roar of the BFG's - I wont know if my bearings are buggered until the wheel falls off, which by then will be the least of my problems! emoticon


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