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Date Registered: 10-2006
Location: Mona Vale, Sydney, AUSTRALIA
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Hi Jamie (Black Thunda),

Thought this might be an appropriate thread title to start things off and catch your attention.

As I mentioned in the other thread, the Brissy girl (wife) reckons Double Island Point is a better place than Bribie to go for a day outing.
She has been there many times before she moved to Sydney and has wanted to go back a few times in the last couple of years and now that we have the exy we might do it this year.

We have also been to Rainbow Beach but not having a 4WD we could not do the beach drive.
With the sand around the rocks being washed away some years ago, the only way onto the beach is a bush track.
She says the bush track out to the beach might be too rough for the exy so I'd like to know if any Qld Xtrailers have done this track and what it is like.

Domenic (Doctor X) has planned a trip to Fraser Island (near Rainbow Beach) around January and he might know something.

Anyway, I'll ask the wife where she wants to go and what she wants to do (picnic, beach drive, ...) and let you know over the next few weeks so we can plan something.

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Date Registered: 09-2005
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Re: Brisbane January 2007 - Sydney Visitor


O.K mate, I'll ask around and see what sort of info I can get on the areas and pass it on.

If anyone reading this knows anything about these areas feel free to reply with a post and tell us about it as well.

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Re: Brisbane January 2007 - Sydney Visitor


Hey Kev,

Doing a bit of surfing (not busy at work, but don't tell anyone) and come across these websites, be good to check these out when you get a minute.

Rainbow Beach info

How to get there

Lighthouse

Info Double Island Point

This is a good site for info about the area

We just had a new member sign up who just spent some time at Rainbow beach. I have left her a note to check out this thread as she may have some info that may come in handy.

I'll keep looking.

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Hi Kev,

I went up to Rainbow a few weekends ago. We had a Hilux and Landcruiser with us so felt pretty confident that they would be able to get us out of any trouble few got into.

We went from Rainbow beach to Freshwater camping grounds on the bush track. We didn’t let the tyres down until we got to the sandy section (there is a definite change in the track from firm dirt to sand). The only problems we had was clearance, but it was all sand so no damage was done. I think the worst bit is that there is only room for one vehicle at time and I was a bit nervous of stopping on the side of the track in case I couldn’t get going again, but we had no problems. We also had some walkie talkies set to channel 40 so we could talk with the other vehicles and hear if anyone was coming the other way etc.

After spending the night we drove down the beach to the ferry. It was high tide so we had to drive on the really soft stuff. I had been advised by the dealership to keep it in ‘LOCK’ on the soft sand but we kept reverting to 2WD because it was getting too hot (we were on our belly the whole trip). So after being pulled out a few times we put it to ‘AUTO’ and only got into trouble if we started going a too fast. When I do it again I will definitely wait for low tide because it is a long trip down the beach at high tide.

We didn't go north of the Cherry Venture so I don't know if the sand has been replaced.

Hope you enjoy your trip.

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Thanks Carolyn,

When you mentioned 'after staying the night' was that because it is such a long trip from Brisbane to the wreck that you could not do the round trip in a day ?

Did you get any indication of the 'overheating' problems of the 4WD system that some of the others have complained about ?

And by being 'on your belly most of the way' was that because you still had the standard factory tyres with the Exy labouring in the soft sand ?

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Hi Kev,

We went up there to camp for the night so thats why we stayed. It would be quite a long trip to do it all in one day. I have a four year old who can't sit still in the car for too long so we have to make frequent stops !!

I read the forum on the overheating issue and I had all those problems. I've got a 2006 manual ST-S. The first thing we noticed was that the engine temp was rising, so we stopped for about 15 mins. When we started driving again after about 10 mins or so the 4WD light started flashing (I had to get the manual out to see what it meant) then car went back to 2WD and we got bogged. The Car was good to go again after we got pulled out, but it happend again a short time later. We then put the switch into AUTO and stayed in second gear till we got off the beach.

Yes I still have the factory tyres on and they were at 20PSI. It was high tide and we were following in the ruts of some vehicles with higher clearance. It just felt that were leveling the sand the whole way back. Mind you I don't have a lot of beach driving experience so it all felt a bit strange to me.

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Thanks Carolyn,

Sounds like AUTO and 2nd gear does the trick to help the Exy make it through the soft stuff without a lot of stop/starts. This would then limit your speed and the load on the 4WD system.
Would that be a correct assumption ?

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quote:

Revhead Kev wrote:

Thanks Carolyn,

Sounds like AUTO and 2nd gear does the trick to help the Exy make it through the soft stuff without a lot of stop/starts. This would then limit your speed and the load on the 4WD system.
Would that be a correct assumption ?



Hi Kev,

Have a peek at the "Trip Reports" section and go down to my report on Moreton Island and you'll see how the X-Trail can go forever on soft sand without overheating. Generally if you keep it in 2nd gear and in Auto Mode on soft sand you can go all day.

The Exy only seems to get in trouble when you over-rev it in soft sand which gives you too much slipage between the front and back wheels.

The speed you travel in second gear is as fast as you need to safely go in soft sand as well.

Good luck.

Danny

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Date Registered: 10-2006
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Thanks Aussie,
Read your report. Nice white sand.

I have Series 1 AUTO but the same applies I guess ... just not too fast in the soft sand and light and constant on the pedal like in the snow.

I suppose the auto will help as the torque converter will absorb some of the initial engine torque before it gets to the wheels and minimise wheel spin.

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Date Registered: 08-2005
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Kev, with an Auto it is probably also worth holding it in 2nd rather than D, this will stop any unwanted gear changes causing power changes to the wheels.

I have not driven an Auto 4WD on sand but I have driven a Auto FWD car on snow before, very similar principle.



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