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Seriously Jalal, how many EF lenses do you have for your old Canon EOS 500 ?

Look at this review page comparing low-light noise and image detail for the Nikon D90 compared with the Canon 450D. Upto ISO800 they are both good with the Nikon D90 getting more image detail at ISO1600.
DPreview - Nikon D90 v's Canon 450D noise comparisons

There are still Canon 450D cameras available from online shops for $699 for the body only which allows you to use all your old EF lenses.
Dirt Cheap Cameras - Canon 450D

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I have 3 lenses Kev, they're the USM type.

Why would I pay $699 for the superseded Canon 450D if I get the latest 550D with lenses for a bit more?

I'm trying to find the best price for both Canon 550D and the Nikon D90 at the moment.

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Hey Kev,

I found the Nikon D90 with the 18-270mm VC lens for $1,320

Or the Nikon D90 with 18-55mm and 55-200mm kit for $1,350

Is this a good price and which kit would you recommend?

Are you sure you're not having auto focusing problems with the 18-270 lens size?

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Hi Jalal,

Best price I can find is $935 for the D90 body only + $699 for the Tamron 18-270 DII lens. This is from d-d-photographics on-line shop so it includes gst.
Almost 2 yrs ago when I got my D90 it was $2100 with the 18-270 lens and an 8GB SD card from Paxtons which also included gst.

I read the autofocus link you posted and all the references were to do with movie mode and live-view. As this focusing method uses the less accurate sensor contrast method instead of the dedicated focus points on the mirror then ofcourse it will be slower. Since as you say, movie mode is a bonus instead of a requirement, it has not bothered me. The easy fix is to autofocus in picture mode, then turn to manual focus when taking the movie if you think it will be a problem. By all reports the standard kit lenses which come with either Nikon or Canon are all very slow to focus and noisey too so this lens is not any worse.

As for the single lens or dual lens option, I chose the single lens, again for convenience.
When I want to take pics at a distance I did not want to have to change lenses from wide to zoom because there would be (1) a chance that the shot would be missed (2) more chance of dust entering the body and getting onto the sensor while the lens was off.

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Hi Kev,

The reviews I read suggest owners of the D90 are having problems with the auto-focus feature in camera mode with the 18-270 lens. The un-availability of the auto focus in video mode is a known fact for the D90 and am not worried about that.

That's a considerable price drop in just 2 years, considering Nikon haven't replaced the D90 with a new model yet (or have they?)

Anyway, am almost 90% set to get the D90 and every shop I spoke to said that most buyers were comparing it to the Canon 550D and they all recommend the D90 over it, even though the Canon is more expensive. (at the shops that is)

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Hi Kev,

The prices I found turned out to be grey import prices, even though they're from physical shops in Sydney. These grey imports don't have the Nikon Australia warranty and only have the local shop warranty (for 2 years)

I was amazed by the price difference when I went today to Ted's Cameras shop in the city for them to tell me that the D90 along with the 18-270 lens would cost $2,100 (which is what you paid 2 years ago!!)

When I showed the prices I have, the guy nearly fainted LOL emoticon

He said it was less than their cost price, but he said to stay away from grey imports.

I just don't understand why I would wanna pay over a $1000 more just to get 12 months local warranty from Nikon for exactly the same product that the other shops are importing themselves, it doesn't make sense to me at all and looks like a total rip-off.

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I know a few people at work who buy from grey importers themselves and they have had no hesitation on buying from them again.
The main 2 are d-d-photographics and dirtcheapcameras.
The prices I quoted you of $935+$699 were from 2 different grey importers.

The key is to buy from a grey importer who also has a shopfront rather than just online. These seem to be the more reputable ones which honour their warranty and can actually get things fixed.

Anyway, not much goes wrong with a camera or lens in 2yrs unless you drop it or expose it to too much dust 4WDing. Then likely any problems won't be covered by the local warranty anyway.

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Kev,

Ended-up getting the Canon 550D, as I got an offer I couldn't refuse from a camera shop in Bansktown who basically matched the grey import price and gave me 3 lenses with the camera (15-85mm, 85-250mm and 50mm F1.8) also a 2 x 16GB Class 10 SDHC Memory Card and 2 years Canon Australia warranty)

With the 3 EF lenses I have, it'll be quite a while before I need to upgrade to another camera I reckon emoticon

All of the camera shops in the city freaked out by the price and said it was selling below cost!

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Now you got to get a backpack to carry it all around in emoticon

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Kev, went to pick-up the camera from the shop and when he saw my lens collection, he said the USM lenses I have are by far better than the lenses included in the camera kit, so he suggested I only get the body plus the portrait 50mm f1.8 lens. That reduced the price by another 500 bucks or so emoticon

Started looking on eBay for extra batteries and the battery grip (really cheap compared to any shop prices) and came across something nice emoticon

If you wanna play a joke on your mates at work, get THIS Nikon Lens. hahahahaha emoticon

And those of you with Canon cameras can get THIS one emoticon

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