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I thought there was already mention of this on these forums, but a search came up with nothing...

On the way back from driving the new Coalcliff sea-side road/bridge, Clare and I went for a little venture...

(PART 1)

I don't think it's called Heathcote Rd, but it runs off it - we drove over a mound on the left, just past the last set of traffic lights near the Menai side of the reactor. I've seen it several times before, and today there were no cars parked on the side of the road next to it (indicating there were none or few trail bike riders present). We didn't get out and check, but I reckon we would've been very close to bottoming-out on this mound.

We only stayed for a few minutes (there were a couple of very young kids on small trail bikes with their parents) and drove around a few of the tracks there. It looks like it would definitely be alot of fun in the wet.

I know some people (from other forums) say this area(s) are out-of-bounds/private land/aboriginal land/national park, but there was no signage visible anywhere. There was a couple of vehicles in there which had obviously entered via a more accessible route, as there was no chance they would've made it over the mound we entered through. I should've stopped and asked them where they entered to check for signage there.

I wondered if anyone on these forums knows anything definite about this area and other nearby "trail bike parks" - I know there are more along Heathcote Rd, heading towards Sandy Point, for example), or can recommend others in the area.

(PART 2)

Another place I have wanted to try to access is under the bridge between Alfords Point and Padstow Heights - heading towards Menai on the left hand side, there seems to be some sort of "access road" (which now seems rather overgrown). It is visible as you're comoing across the bridge, but you'd need to go past the barrier on the left hand side, and turn back 180 degrees on the other side of the barrier to get to the spot. When I first saw this access road about a year (or more) ago, it seemed fairly easy/accessible, but now it looks like it would be rather difficult to travel on, overgrown with tall grass and erosion has made the ruts deeper, too.

I highly doubt it, but has anyone been down there before?



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Re: trail-bike/4WD tracks around Menai/Heathcote, Sydney


 The track you went in off Heathcote Road is actually the 4wd accreditation track for the NSW Police. I challenge any xtrail to drive the entire route. We took several 'proper' fourbies and we ended up towing the Rodeo out. The track lenght is about 20km and comes out on the opposite side on the Old Illawarra Road. I could probably find some maps or GPS locators for you if you are REALLY keen.

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 Sorry about the picture quality, but they have been scanned, not digital pics.

 Recently I drove the easier part of the track in my Pajero, which is entered via the steepest mound of dirt, to the south of the park. This track takes you in a giant loop with some nice little ledges and should be 'doable' in the exee. I have maps of this track, if I can find them.

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Brett there a few of us on Australia4WD that are prett interested in the track you mention. Be great if you have any map/waypoint details
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Hi Basshead,
This is my first post in here ok so go easy on me. In reply to ur questions about Menai.

PART 2 first...
That spot ur talking about is a bit steep and rough,Ive been down it a couple of times just for fun, it is not a track that leads anywhere. Basically it takes u down the hill right next to the bridge, looks kinda like a swamp. Not much to see, also be careful if u go downthere, sometimes the mozzies will eat u alive. Its swamp land really. But worth a drive down for sure.

PART 1 reply....
If ur talking about Lucas Heights side (think its called Illawarra road) then u cant ride OR drive in there at all. Security reasons due to terrorists, so dont try it they will come down hard on u.

Heathcoat road has many entry points, most have the "hump" entry point which most are fine in ur 4b getting in. There are some fantastic tracks in Menai, endless things to do. If u know how, u can head towards the river behind the old mini bike club ground.
Once u get to the river, its great for a swim or some sand driving (soft sand) and if u r a thrill seeker, u cna try ur luck in the swamp...yes swamp, after rain, this swamp has left many well setup 4b's stuck for hours. But again i warn u mate... if u have to get out and dig, I hope u have alot of blood to share with the endless supply of mozzies in there...its abreeding ground for them. I have played chicken in that swamp many times, its fantasic when the conditions r right. Also if u head towards the south side away from the river, there is a very good track that goes for a few kms, but again after rain, its a challenge for even my GQ and i have diff locks. I have been going to menai since i was 8 on my yamaha mini enduro 60 cc beast. Know it well. Im now 48 years old so go figure. In those days u could ride around the lucas heights side and it too had soem awsome tracks for bikes. I was there last weekend just to shake the stuffings out of my water tank to clean out the water using bi carb soda....while i was heading home near the nuclear joint..i saw 2 landcruisers being questioned by federal cops..prob wanting to know what they were doing in there. I didnt hang around to find out what happened.

ALso In Menai itself (heathcoat rd side) they have police that patrol it almost 24/7 now on 4 stroke bikes. They r hard to see until its too late, they r fantastic riders too, ive seen them chase a few riders trying to escape...with no luck. Most times..if ur polite and look like ur ok..they will give u a warning and take ur engine and frame numbers down to log for future reference (refering to unregistered bikes here). If they do this, and tell u not to come back...and u do go back....they will confescate ur bike and u have to appera in court. Its serious stuff but mainly they r there to catch stupid idiots who ride like they wone the palce and also to catch rubbish dumpers which frequent in there to dump their rubbish.

Hope this helps
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Thanks for your reply Ange...

Looks like I might steer clear of the site near Lucas Heights - for obvious reasons emoticon

I've driven past the bridge entrance numerous times since posting original message and each time it looks like it's getting more and more difficult to access. I'll have to wait until others are keep to explore. Point taken with regards to the mozzies - they normally love my blood, so I'll keep the windows right up and try not to get bogged if I do go down there!

When I get the chance, I might see if I can find any tracks along Heathcote Rd using Google Earth - I'm sure the clarity would be good enough to be able to pick out the clearings amongst the trees...


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Your welcome,
If your that keen to go into Menai, but would feel safer heading in there with big daddy...(a...GQ) let me know. I dont mind taking you around the big track,It will take us most of the day to do a return trip if things get hard that is and once we reach the centre bit, there is some great mud stuff in there if thats what u like. Maybe if you guys know eachother you may want to try it in comfort knowing if ya get stuck, there is someone to get u out....let me know...I love it in there.

Hope i didnt over step the mark by offering a gathering, but the offer is there if u want to explore it.

Ange.

P.S....after the heavy rain..id wait a bit till it dries out, believe me, Menai can get as challenging as most places after rain.
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I'm up for it... Maybe wait a few weeks until I get some new (and much better) tyres!

If anyone else is interested, say so!

We can start throwing around some dates...


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I'm keen!

Dates - any Sunday this month, except the 26th, is good for me. Any Saturday except the 18th or 25th, too.

Looking forward to a bit of mud action :-)

Rgds,
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Welcome to the forum Ange and thanks for the gathering offer which sounds pretty interesting indeed and very close to me too emoticon

OK Rich, get those new tyres and give us a yell, because there is no way I'll head-out with you with the tyres you now have LOL

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I'll give a new definition to the word "mudslide" emoticon



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