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jalalski
Date Registered: 02-2004
Location: SUTHERLAND, SYDNEY
TOTAL POSTS: 29100
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Hi-Tech X-Trail Extractors/Headers & Full Exhaust System (T30 X-TRAIL)
Hi Guys,
As promised, I came back today from my 2 day trip to the Hi-Tech factory in Bathurst and here is the full and detailed report I promised you about the FULL exhaust system replacement offered by Hi-Tech.
I left Sydney on Thursday morning at 4:30am and headed to Bathurst, the drive was pleasant and there was not traffic at all, added to that I was running with a completely new exhaust system which includes the extractors, high flow stainless steel cat. converter, twin resonators and twin tail pipes, so the drive was even more pleasant on the highway and the high end power was awesome.
Got to Bathurst in about 2 hours and 20 minutes (was sticking to the speed limit in case you're wondering )
As soon as I arrived at the factory and was greeted by Lambros (Hi-Tech owner) and Dwayne and my exy was put on the "operating table AKA the hoist
Here are some pics of the Hi-Tech factory. It is pretty impressive!
The guys started to take off my existing extractors set-up, so they could use a template to make a "jig" (a term used for making a frame around the piping, flanges and the rest of the set-up to make a complete and ready made template for future production of the system without the need to measure anything)
As my extractors were manufactured on my exy in Sydney and all pipes were welded one by one, it was hard to remove them in one piece, so to remove the existing extractors they had to remove the radiator cooling fans and loosen the alternator and take them off (from the top of the engine bay)
Once the extractors were off, they were put on the "jig"
NOTE: Never mind the stripped paint. That was a failed attempt at making the extractors look a bit pretty when they were first fitted to my exy, only to realize that we used 300 degrees paint and the extractors get up to 800 degrees temperature
Next the guys removed the section with the cat. converter and the flexible pipe and put that on the jig too.
Welding time started to make the new kits using those jigs/templates
Here is the mandrel bend machine that is used to bend the extractors pipes.
The new 4-2-1 Hi-Tech Extractors and the High Flow Cat. Converter has been made and here they're (FYEO-For Your Eyes Only)
Note the position of the O2 sensor, it is in fact reading the heat of 2 cylinders as was pointed out before, but the reading is being taken from the 2nd and 4th cylinder, therefore ensuring that the heat of the entire engine block is getting measured evenly, so this will cause no issues at all and it is done exactly the same way with other extractors too.
It was time to test the new kit on my exy and see that everything fits in place correctly (and it did) what a perfect fit!
Day 2 involved taking the cat. back system off and testing a newly designed template which will see the "twins" set-up fit BOTH xtrails (with and without a towbar)
There are 2 resonators in the "twins" set-up to help reduce the noise level and they work perfectly in this regard.
This has concluded the testing phase and with everything fitting perfectly well using the new templates, production will now proceed as planned and the kit can be ordered at any time
My following post here will include the break-up of the system and pricing for both Australian and Overseas xtrailers.
I will do this tomorrow morning and it will include some very important facts which you will be amazed to find-out when compared to other major brands of extractors overseas and locally.
EDIT: All new Hi-Tech X-Trail Systems will have the new bullet shape resonators fitted instead of the old design shown above. There has been a design upgrade in terms of the shape of the resonators used in the system for toughness and durability reasons (read full details HERE). See below pics showing the new resonator type.
Last edited by jalalski, 29/May/2014, 8:30 am
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24/Feb/2006, 10:38 pm
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jalalski
Date Registered: 02-2004
Location: SUTHERLAND, SYDNEY
TOTAL POSTS: 29100
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Re: Hi-Tech X-Trail Extractors/Headers & Full Exhaust System
Part II- Facts about the System
The X-Trail exhaust system will be offered in the following combinations:
Extractors & Cat. for QR25DE Engines
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This system will consist of the mandrel bent extractors is 4-2-1 configuration and it is made of highest grade stainless steel with the position of the O2 sensor located between cylinders number 2 and 4, ensuring an even temp. measurement across the entire engine block.
The system also includes a Stainless Steel Catalytic Converter made by CatCo USA
This catalytic converter is stainless steel through-out and uses metal substrate and it ensures high flow of gasses coming from your engine using the 200 cells technology (compared to the factory 400 cells) and a flow-rate of 706.2CFM
It will completely eliminate the potential disintegration problem we're facing with our factory catalytic converter and for which we had a recall already (which has caused some engine damage and replacement)
This cat. converter is fully EPA compliant.
FACTS:
* Most of the overseas branded extractors & cat. systems use Mild Steel pipe construction and have them ceramic coated to look nice and shiny. There is no comparison at all to a full stainless steel system which Hi-Tech offers. Those extractors are usually priced at around $660US!
* Most if not all overseas and local systems use ceramic cat. converters. Again this where Hi-Tech exceeds expectations by using CatCo made of stainless steel, which prevents flaking.
* The temperature in the cat. converter could reach 800-900 degrees and this is what causes the factory cat. converter which has ceramic wall to disintegrate and the small pieces finding their way to your engine. CatCo cat converters eliminate this problem as there are no side-walls required with the full stainless steel system and they withstand that temperature with ease and peace of mind.
* Not all overseas and local brands are able to offer warranty on their systems against potential damage. Hi-Tech is so confident of their products that they will offer 10 (TEN) YEARS WARRANTY against rust and faulty workmanship on the full system and unlimited number of kms!
* Not all overseas and local brands can tell you their system is Emission Control and ADR compliant. Hi-Tech system is and it has passed all required EPA and ADR tests to gain this approval. This is a VERY important factor when you update your insurance policy.
* The reported and proven (by dyno tests) power gains of the extractors system is 24KW increase at the wheels and over 220Nm Torque!
Twin Tail Pipe System (Cat. back)
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This system as you have seen before, will offer you the choice to replace the bulky looking factory muffler which is the lowest point on our xtrails with a complete cat. back system connecting to the factory extractors. It is a bolt on system and can be easily done at home!
The system offers a direct connection to the first flange on the pipe coming down from the factory extractors and then it is just a matter of bolting the rest of the kit on.
The twin system is suitable for all 2.5LT (QR25DE) engine types and for xtrails WITH and WITHOUT a towbar.
This mod will give you a power increase of around 8-9KW at the wheels over the factory system and will also eliminate the problem of the muffler being the lowest point.
This will be the standard tail pipe configuration for all xtrails, as it has been noted that the spread tail-pipe config. offers the best sound level which is both deep and quiet.
The "twins" system also uses 2 stainless steel resonators (as seen in Part I of my report) this ensures that the dBA level remains within the ADR regulations and doesn't annoy you (or your wife) when traveling on the freeway.
FACTS:
* Most locally branded alternative twin systems offer mild steel construction, which is both plain looking and in most cases quite noisy. Hi-Tech system offers full stainless steel system and uses 2 resonators to address the noise level perfectly.
* It is very rare to expect major power gains as a result of cat. back upgrade, but with the Hi-Tech cat. back system, it has been proven by dyno test that the gains are 8-9KW at the wheels, which is pretty impressive for this type of upgrade. (dyno results below)
The following dyno test results will show you the Power & Torque comparison between the standard exy and the one with twins (around 8-9KW power gain at the wheels there)
Full System Upgrade (The Works)
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This system will offer you the chance to upgrade the full exhaust system of your xtrail in one hit incorporating the above 2 stand-alone systems/upgrades. This is a much better alternative to explore the full power potentials of your QR25DE engine and eliminates the need to do further upgrades to a half system (should you choose to go that way).
NOTE: The pipe size used in the Hi-Tech system is 2 Inch, this ensures that no low-end power is lost compared to bigger size pipes. The X-Trail being a 4WD type of car, low end power is more important for everyday driving and there is plenty of high end power too, as we have seen at Bathurst where my auto reached 6000RPM for the last gear change
The second set of dyno results is the one of my exy (done this morning) showing a peak of 77.1KW at around 95kms/hour, but it is also showing 74KW at the common speed (between the 2 xtrails) of 90kms/hour
This would translate to around 24KW extra compared to the standard exy and 16KW extra compared to an exy with the twins!!!
This concludes Part II of my report. The next post will include price breakdowns
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25/Feb/2006, 10:11 am
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jalalski
Date Registered: 02-2004
Location: SUTHERLAND, SYDNEY
TOTAL POSTS: 29100
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Re: Hi-Tech X-Trail Extractors/Headers & Full Exhaust System
Part III- Pricing & Ordering
I'm happy to announce that Hi-Tech Mufflers has entered into partnership with the Australian X-Trail Forum and that the X-Trail Hi-Tech Exhaust System will be exclusively offered through our forum and the On Line X-Trail Store!
All orders and inquiries (system and pricing related) will need to be addressed to Hi-Tech Mufflers directly:
mailto:[email protected]
Shipping to interstate and overseas customers will be arranged by Hi-Tech direct from their factory.
The Australian X-Trail Forum will be in a position to arrange group-buy orders where great savings will be made on pricing.
Hi-Tech has secured very competitive local and international shipping rates to ensure the best package deal is offered to customers without the burden of paying high shipping/freight costs.
Pricing as of 01/02/2013:
NOTE: All prices exclude freight costs and are in Australian Dollars.
THE DISCOUNTED PRICING IS AVAILABLE TO FULL MEMBERS OF THE AUSTRALIAN X-TRAIL FORUM ONLY! To become a Full Member, please refer to THIS thread.
Option 1 (Extractors & High Flow Cat. System)
This option is only suitable for someone who has already fitted the Hi-Tech cat. back system and wanting to complete the upgrade to include the extractors. This option is NOT suitable for connection to the factory exhaust system set-up!
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Australian Customers:
$1,846 (supply & fit) including GST
$1,450 (supply only) including GST
Overseas Customers:
A$1,305 (supply) (No GST Payable)
Option 2 (Twin Tail Pipe System Cat. Back)
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Australian Customers:
$1,015 (supply & fit) including GST
$880.00 (supply only) including GST
2006 X-Trail Owners (or xtrails running with dual cat. converters) will only need ONE resonator, as the second cat. will act as a resonator itself. The rest of the system is identical to the one described for other models.
Overseas Customers:
A$792.00 (supply) (No GST Payable)
Option 3 (Full Exhaust System Upgrade- The works)
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Australian Customers:
$2,827 (supply & fit) including GST
$2,365 (supply only) including GST
Overseas Customers:
A$2,129 (supply) (No GST Payable)
NOTE: Hi-Tech extractors come ceramic coated, which will help reduce the heat and will also give the extractors that awesome shiny look.
This is how the extractors will look like once they have been ceramic coated
All local fitting in Sydney will be arranged to be done at the Hi-Tech muffler shop in Darlinghurst. (Prior appointment and booking are essential)
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25/Feb/2006, 10:37 am
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jalalski
Date Registered: 02-2004
Location: SUTHERLAND, SYDNEY
TOTAL POSTS: 29100
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Re: Hi-Tech X-Trail Extractors/Headers & Full Exhaust System
quote: BRETT72 wrote:
ps: Jalal, I think we need a 'in-car' video of the beast showing its full potential.
hehehe, can I borrow yours?
I will ask Rich to come around next time so he can video the beast in action. That way you'll get sound and picture too LOL
But if I get in trouble, I'll be giving you a buzz
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25/Feb/2006, 8:25 pm
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jalalski
Date Registered: 02-2004
Location: SUTHERLAND, SYDNEY
TOTAL POSTS: 29100
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Re: Hi-Tech X-Trail Extractors/Headers & Full Exhaust System
No Problems Rich, just give me a buzz when you're ready.
You can tell Clare, you're going for an xtrail excursion or she can come and enjoy the ride too.
P.S. Members, please note that we will be conducting this test in a safe environment and away from traffic
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25/Feb/2006, 9:50 pm
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NPC73
X-TRAIL HOLIC
Date Registered: 12-2004
Location: Mount Isa, QLD
TOTAL POSTS: 1247
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Re: Hi-Tech X-Trail Extractors/Headers & Full Exhaust System
Rich,
Don't worry if you can't get to Jalal's place because of Clare,
I've just placed an order for the Headers and Cat upgrade. So hopefully within the next couple of weeks, I'll have Silvia holding the camera and I'll be showing you guys what a "Manual" exy with the full kit can do...,
--- Noel...
Member ID: X-072 (Retired Administrator)
2003 X-trail, TI, Manual, (Series 1) - (with the works)
2013 Toyota Prado, Manual, Turbo Diesel - (Snorkel-K&N-Full Exhaust, 20" Low Profiles, Chrome Bullbar, HID Spots, + All the Bling!)
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26/Feb/2006, 1:42 am
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jalalski
Date Registered: 02-2004
Location: SUTHERLAND, SYDNEY
TOTAL POSTS: 29100
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Re: Hi-Tech X-Trail Extractors/Headers & Full Exhaust System
Noel,
It would also be great if you can dyno your exy before the extractors and after
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26/Feb/2006, 8:04 am
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