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Date Registered: 12-2005
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If you wanted to strengthen the 3mm Alloy or 3mm steel bash plate design, why not have some 12mm box section tube cut up and welded in where there is room. Preferably having the tube running from front to back.

Any competent engineering shop could even cut & weld the box section to accomodate curves in the bash plate.

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Date Registered: 02-2004
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blackxtrailgt wrote:

If you wanted to strengthen the 3mm Alloy or 3mm steel bash plate design, why not have some 12mm box section tube cut up and welded in where there is room. Preferably having the tube running from front to back.

Any competent engineering shop could even cut & weld the box section to accomodate curves in the bash plate.



Good suggestion, however would that hinder the ability to remove the bash plate easily when it’s not in use?

I like the way Shane's friend has designed my bash plate because it is relatively easy to fit and remove.

15KG's is not a weight you would want to be carrying around while driving in the city anyway.



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 You could use some angle and weld that on it looks good and it will strenthen it as well that is what we use on the rally cars
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Coming back with some facts on the weight of Aluminium v steel. Aluminium is generally about 3 times lighter than steel but you need 3 times as much aluminium to achieve a similar deflection in both structures, therefore the same weight. There is considerably more cost in aluminium, and, steel is easier to weld, therefore steel gets the nod if you are not having the plate on the belly 24x7x52.
The weight difference is :
5mm Alum is 15kg/m2
5mm black steel checker plate at 41.4kg/m2.

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A couple of photos of an exy bash plate sighted in Japan emoticon

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For those interested, I've popped into Jalal's and traced a template of his bash-plate. Hopefully I'll soon get a chance to make one up out of cardboard (there are some extra bits I wanted to add to it to protect auto transmission etc) and then once that's right, finally one out of aluminium.

I may use a slightly different variation of mounting as Jalal's has, but like he said, it's a pretty good way of fixing it (the back section is the tricky part).

Keeping in mind the steel VS. aluminium strength issues, I might need to make the mounting brackets up from steel as aluminium wouldn't last very long - they would twist out of shape after a few knocks and then make it difficult to remove the bashplate (for repairs, etc)...



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  Hi ppl with the bash plate do you want to just cover the sump & transmion for small to medium hits then use a light gauge material 2 or 3 mm or do you want to use it like a bull dozer then go with the heavy material 3 to 5mm you will be suprised how much of a hit the lighter material will take.
    on some of the rally cars that i have seen they use up to 3mm with some angle welded in place for strenght & they are going at worp speed over the dirt roads.
      But we will be doing low speed driving & when you see a rock or something that looks like it will hurt the car you will slow down so that the impact will not be so bad.

   So my question is what thickness do we us on our bush plate???
   

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Hey Rich, it's great to hear you finally have a chance to do the bash plate.

Is your modified one for the auto still going to fit the manual? I am more than happy to pay a reasonable price (inc labour) for one, if you want to build more than one at once. Let me know if you can.

I think the 3mm aluminium with steel bar reinforcement would be fantastic, as I merely want it to replace my plastic one and avoid getting dirt/sand in the engine and belts. I'm not going to be running into rocks, but care more about going out to the beach again.
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I should mention that I'm not a qualified metalworker, and can't guarantee the quality of the bash plate emoticon When you see what mine looks like, you may want to reconsider your question emoticon

I will supply cardboard template measurements before I start construction of the real thing, so others can either make their own or take the measurements away to get one made up.

I'm also not an architect, so the template drawings wont be anything special either emoticon


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Rich,

I'll get it certified for you mate, just drop by my place when you're done and I'll stamp it for you. hehehe

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