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Date Registered: 12-2008
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Can you remember what side you guys started with first?

From what I can gather the only way to get the hub down far enough is undo the sway bar to let the control arms drop. I can not see how you could have possibly done it with 1 wheel still on the ground as there would be way to much torsion through the sway bar to push the hub assembly down far enough.

I am still undecided what to do but if I have another crack at it i will be disassemling both struts off the front at the same time and disconnecting the sway bar, if I go down this route I may as well replace the sway bar bushes while I am at it.

I didnt particularly want to rebuilt the front end as I have done it on cars in the past and its a major pain, thats why i went this route, should have known better.

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Date Registered: 01-2008
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I cannot remember which side I did first, but you are right - I had both sides off the ground at the same time. I just had a look at the photo below. You can see from it that I did not undo the stabilizer bar. Instead I disconnected the stabilizer bar rod from the transverse link. Hopefully the picture may give you some other clues, Beni.

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Date Registered: 12-2008
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Thanks Alex, going to attempt it again this weekend at a mates place with hoist.
Hopefully with some better results.

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Date Registered: 10-2006
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Beni,
Have you gone through this whole thread to check out how others have done it ?
Here is a link to the DIY post Rich (basshead) did after he and I fitted our spacers together.
Have a read of it before you attempt things again.
It will definitely be easier with your mate helping.

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Date Registered: 12-2008
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Hi Kev,

Yeah mate, read the whole thread a couple of times in fact plus consulted the DIY guide but all is good, managed to fit them on the weekend.
My advice to anyone else attempting to fit the spacers there are 2 crucial things that will make the job a whole lot easier and that’s a strong mate and a vehicle hoist. If you have a strong mate with a vehicle hoist like me then even better.
Credit where it’s due and much kudos to the Superior Eng boys on the development of an awesome piece of bolt on kit for the Exy but you may as well chuck their instructions in the bin.
The only way to relieve enough tension off the sway to fit the front spacers without removing the sway bar altogether is to have both front wheels and struts off the ground and undone at the same time. Only then can you pull the hub down far enough with minimal force to fit the strut to hub bolts, we still required the use of a spring compressor to achieve this.
The rears are much easier than the fronts, no need for the use of the spring compressor.
Anyway here are some photos of the process.

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Hi,

New here, looking at buying the King Springs off Ebay for around $300. Is this the way to go?
My mate has all the tools and between us we think we can swap em over in a day. I see a lot of you opting for the spacers, any reason?

Also any difference between the quality of springs of these Kings springs and what Pedders use? Also anyone have a rough cost of Pedders?

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Date Registered: 02-2008
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The pedders are around $800(just get a quote from them) and the Kings springs I have noticed in the thread that a few members have had issues with the front springs sagging.

Since I have had my Pedders lift I have had no issues with sagging and the measurements are the same all round from the day they were fitted.

Regards Scot

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Date Registered: 03-2012
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The reason spacers were a viable option was because fitted they were $550 for a set and gave 50mm lift. Springs could only give a maximum 30-40mm and cost anywhere from $650+ It really just depends what you want to lift your car for.

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Date Registered: 06-2008
Location: Blue Mountains, NSW
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Scot,
The problem with the front coils sagging is because the installers have been getting the front left and right mixed up, the drivers side (right) has a slightly higher rate to compensate for the driver in the car, especially in the T31 model.

All suspension will settle between 5 to 15 mm after a few thousand kms.


Ian,
When you fit new coils they are at a higher rate than standard giving you a better feel for the road and much better travel off road with a greater spring rate and achieving a higher stance.

With spacers, all you are really doing is lifting the body over the suspension. Still crappy standard suspension with less travel but lifting the car off the ground higher.

It is not a good idea to do both together as the front end geometry excessively changes for the worst.

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Date Registered: 03-2012
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Tony, I already opted for the better coil replacement on my T31.. but that said, when I owned my T30, and wasn't exactly rolling in money, I'd always planned to fit the strut spacers. Did not know about the switched front coils though.. so I might have to find out more about that, as I'm sure Scot can tell you how much my front end has settled, haha.

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