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Date Registered: 07-2011
Location: Southern Finland
TOTAL POSTS: 68
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BC66DJ wrote:

Hi Guys,

I have had some Superior Engineering Strut spacers in for about the last 5 years or so (give or take). And there definitely a good bit of kit.

I took the spacers out and replaced my suspension with a full Pedders kit, springs and shocks, for a 20mm lift all round, after the springs had settled.

I decided to put the spacers back in to get a 70mm lift all round, like Henri's, after getting the spacers back in in everything seemed ok except the front passengers side was making a really bad loud grinding noise. On closer inspection the top of the inner CV was sitting right on the edge of its socket, feeling it through the boot it was maybe sitting 5mm out at the top. The drivers side seemed fine. The axel on the passenger side is a little shorter compared to the drivers side.

my query is...

Should this side be shorter? and if so,

Is it possible to put a longer 1/2 axel in on the passenger side? (maybe a drivers side 1/2 axel?)

thanks guys,



I would think that a longer axle might do the trick, since the inner CV joint would be further in the socket when the car is sitting on the ground normally. It would also help reduce the CV joint angle. That's what I'm going to do if I ever have a busted CV joint.

Nevertheless, I never had such a problem. There might be a difference between the ARB OME springs and the Pedders ones. How do your measurements compare to mine? How much weight do you have in/on the car right now? Remember that I have the diesel engine, the bull bar, the bash plate (well, actually 2 of them now) and the side steps on which will definitely lower the ride height somewhat. I also have had some vibration and noise when accelerating uphill at highway speeds (>100km/h) when the fuel tank is full or I have a lot of heavy stuff in the boot. I have attributed that to the inner CV joint running out of available slip (sorry, may be a bad translation).

Did you test rolling the tyres with the suspension fully extended? If the problem occurs only with maximum outward travel then you might need to limit it somehow. I installed these 2 rubber bushings on the sway bar to prevent metal-on-metal banging when the suspension extends all the way out.
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They also prevent the CV joint from reaching the greatest angles. Hope this helps and glad to hear we have an another double lifted X-Trail on the forum emoticon

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cooch t31 wrote:

70mm lift is pretty extreme for an Xtrail. Many people don't recomend using spacers with a lift.
I don't think there is anything you can do in regards to the axel cause the angle of the CV won't change which means they will wear out super quick.



Yeah, it's extreme in more ways than one but certainly doable. I have been running the double lift since October last year and the car has done about 15 000 kms in that time. The only problems I've experienced are the worn CV boots and the aforementioned vibrations.

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Date Registered: 12-2011
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Thanks for your input guys.
It's appreciated.

I think the 1" springs and 2" spacer might be too much, but I would like another inch on the springs to bring it back to the 2"s I had with just the spacer. I do alot of driving on central Queensland roads so need to make sure it stays reliable.

I might make a few enquiries about a 1" spacer.

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Date Registered: 10-2006
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I am sure superior engineering also did a 20mm spacer along with the 50mm

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Date Registered: 12-2011
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Superior Engineering have a jig made up for their 50mm strut spacers.
they are not able to make a 30mm set (unless custom made i guess $$$$$)

Thanks again guys

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Date Registered: 11-2011
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Hey you guys

I innstalled my Old Man Emu shocks and springs this weekend and I love it! Instant approvement in handling and they look great. I got about a 60mm lift in the front and about 65mm in the rear (car lifted up off the ground), but I reckon they'll settle in about 30-40mm in a couple of weeks.



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Date Registered: 07-2011
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Well, about 20 000 kms after the second lift and I have now busted the inner CV joint on the front left driveshaft. Looks like one of the bearings on the tripod has failed and the whole joint has overheated as a result.

I will now be looking into replacing both front driveshafts with custom ones. I'm going to go with universal joints if I can get them. Will keep you guys posted.

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Date Registered: 12-2011
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I might be interested in some of these custom drive shafts, depending on price.

Let us know how you go.

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Date Registered: 07-2011
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BC66DJ wrote:

I might be interested in some of these custom drive shafts, depending on price.

Let us know how you go.



Unfortunately, I ended up just replacing the driveshaft with an original and removing the OME springs from the front. So only spacers and the OME shockies with the stock springs there now, going to have to rely more on the bash plate. Looks like you guys were right back in 2005 about the CV angles.

After thinking about the U-joints, I decided to abandon the idea because the difference between input and output angles would have caused problems. CV-joints are the only way to go. Also, the custom driveshafts would've been made in Finland so the price in Australia would've been different. They wouldn't have been cheap either way.

Another thing I found out was that front driveshafts from a petrol T30 are compatible with my diesel version on the right hand side (up to the flange) but not on the left. The driveshaft from the petrol (QR25DE) is a couple of centimeters longer, otherwise no obvious differences. That might also indicate why BC66DJ encountered problems that I hadn't when fitting the double lift.

On a different matter, Kev, where did you get the "compatible aftermarket" driveshaft from? Do they supply inner CV-joints separately? I'm asking because I have found heaps of aftermarket outer joints but none for the transaxle side. And even Nissan doesn't supply the inner joint separately, you have to get the whole driveshaft.

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Date Registered: 10-2006
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The "compatable aftermarket" driveshaft was sourced from a local Sydney CV & driveshaft centre but as I mentioned later was not campatable and changed back to reconditioned OEM driveshafts because of the incorrect ABS teeth sizing on the outer CV fooling the 4WD system with incorrect rotation pulses.

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Date Registered: 10-2011
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i have ordered some king springs, just waiting on there arrival. Do i need to also purchase some camber pins to complete the job?

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