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Date Registered: 04-2008
Location: Perth, Western Australia
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Re: Ethanol use in x trail

I don't personally think using an ethanol blend fuel is worth the risk. Sure, you may save a couple of dollars a tank....even $3-400 a year, but it would not take too much of a decrease in your engines efficiency or an increase in wear to gobble that saving up. The 95 and 98 octane fuels tend to have a cleaning effect on the fuel system and engine, and tend to give just a tiny increase in range. As they say, you get what you pay for.......and, oils ain't oils.

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9/Jun/2008, 9:24 pm

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Date Registered: 09-2007
Location: Launceston TAS
TOTAL POSTS: 83

Re: Ethanol use in x trail

Ray, Did you actually read the article ?

Mark

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9/Jun/2008, 9:32 pm

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Date Registered: 10-2007
Location: Mt Druitt, Western Sydney, NSW
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Re: Ethanol use in x trail

Rich, Mark, Ray,

Thanks for your replies and your opinions. And thanks Mark for the link, I'll check it out now.

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Matt S - X-677
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9/Jun/2008, 9:39 pm

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Date Registered: 10-2006
Location: Mona Vale, Sydney, AUSTRALIA
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Re: Ethanol use in x trail

It has been stated before that all Nissan post 2004 are E10 compatable.

The reasons for pre 2004 not being compatable are that Ethanol can have detrimental effects on some of the rubber sealing gaskets in the fuel pump and injector seals as well as a potential for rust in steel fuel lines because of Ethanol's hygroscopic actions.

It seems Nissan must have changed the rubber used in the fuel system gaskets and used a steel alloy for all lines to allow post 2004 vehicles to be E10 campatable.

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9/Jun/2008, 11:45 pm

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Date Registered: 01-2009
Location: Carseldine, QLD
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Re: Ethanol use in x trail

I have to be honest and say that I don't believe this article as far as mileage loss. I drove my car to Hervey Bay and back (total 7.5 hours of driving) on a little more than half a tank of standard petrol. A week later I filled up with E10 and drove to Nth NSW and back (total 3.5 hours of driving) using half a tank of fuel.

Both of these roads run between 90 - 110km/h 90% of the trip, my car was loaded much the same for each trip. Then there is the fact that the drive to Hervey bay has many more hills. Both trips I used cruise control.

How can it be said that there is only a 2.7% loss in mileage.

This is my personal experience but I don't think I'm likely to use E10 again.

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11/Feb/2009, 8:27 am

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Date Registered: 05-2005
Location: Tahmoor NSW
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Re: Ethanol use in x trail

Hi.
I also have a Mitsubishi van 2006 and I use E10 and there has only been negligible loss of fuel range; less 30 klm per tank; but it has more power than running on 91.
must be the higher octane base of 95.

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2/Apr/2009, 10:16 pm

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Date Registered: 12-2005
Location: Wingham, NSW, Australia.
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Re: Ethanol use in x trail

Hi list, well I suppose Im a bit late with this reply but just came accross this discussion,
I have been using E10 for over 3 yrs in my Xtrail, and I also tow a caravan as well, I have just finished a trip of 9,000 ks round half of Aust, my car is manual, Car has just over 150,000 ks on it, I have had no problems with it engine wise to date.
Still on original exhaust,
Fitted new Rotors last week. I change my oil+ filter every 6000, use Magnatex oil.

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21/Jul/2009, 4:22 pm

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Date Registered: 06-2009
Location: NW Taswegia
TOTAL POSTS: 129

Re: Ethanol use in x trail

I've run E10 fuels in my 98 Patrol (4.5L EFI) for a fair while..... no issues yet.

A mate in Qld runs his - same year etc - on either 95RON originally or now the Boost 98RON with ethanol from United with a full replacement ECU and has no issues, he would do 30K a year and has had a replacement ECU fitted with a dual map tune for 98RON or normal ULP.....

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29/Jul/2009, 12:07 am

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Date Registered: 01-2008
Location: North Rocks
TOTAL POSTS: 209

Re: Ethanol use in x trail

I must have had my head in the sand, but the Open Road (NRMA magazine) was the first I knew that NSW will have no standard ULP after 1 July next year. It took me half an hour on the web to find that this came into law 7 April 2009 (but to be implemented next year).

So this means that the choice is E10 or some 95 (or greater) RON product. The price difference between the two products is not small and it would appear that there is no choice for those of us with XTrails before 2004 - we cannot use E10 (thanks to Kev for explaining why). Bummer
(I am not wanting to prompt another round of discussion about why an owner should use 95 RON anyway - I can see a lot of people believe that. I am just warning those owners of old XTrails who may not have caught up with this news).

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14/Jul/2010, 10:56 pm