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Date Registered: 01-2012
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My filler is under the rear bumper bar, and is a real pain when you have crook knees and older.
The installer said there was insufficient space in the petrol filler area, and it appears so compared to earlier models,
Is there any way of improving the space in this area so I can relocate the gas filler?

Has any one in Adelaide had the filler installed in their exy on a t31 SERIES 2 petrol cap area?

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Date Registered: 05-2011
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Hi Les our system is the liquid injection system which i think is not suited to the xtrail as we only get around 14/15lts per 100klm.Our filler is in the fuel cap area and there is enough room,we have the 08 xtrail t31 series 1 but i would think the series 2 would be any different in that area.

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Date Registered: 05-2012
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Hi Everyone,

Jalal suggested this would be a good place to post this. I hope some one can shed some light.

I have a 2003 T30 which I purchased 4 years ago as a used vehicle from a Nissan dealership in Brisbane. I had an LPG conversion (Sprintgas injected system) around 3 years ago. This vehicle has been trouble for a long time. I had the butterfly screw issue and had the head rebuilt at my expense. The dealership would not honour the used car warranty as I'd had the lpg conversion. One year ago the gearbox was rebuilt after it failed.

My current (and longstanding) problems are as follows:

1) I have an intermittent engine cutout / shutdown. This occurs on either fuel type, within a few minutes of a cold start-up, after some load on the engine and a subsequent braking and deceleration. mostly after the crest of a steep hill I have to drive on each day. This is more likely if the engine is cold and I have accelerated significantly getting up the hill (less likely if I let the engine warm up and nurse it over the hill at lower revs). It is NOT on fuel changeover as it occurs when lpg is manually disabled. It has also occured once on a flat road but also within minutes of start-up. As I have to navigate a sharp mountain bend after the hill where this normally occurs, I am getting very scared off actually veering off the side of the mountain with the resultant loss of brakes and steering.

2) For 2 years I have had a worsening rattle/vibration on idle. This is worst in reverse or drive and even worse with the AC turned on. Here is what has been done to attempt to fix it:

- Cam and crank sensors replaced
- Accessory belt tensioner replaced twice. This belt can be seen to flap about as though the tensioner is not working but 2 new genuine tensioners have not changed this. The belt seems to be the source of the rattle but not sure.
- Drive chain and full assembly replaced with new chain/assembly
- Engine mounts replaced
- Alternator overrun pulley replaced
- Mechanic used shorter belt to test/bypass A/C compressor but rattle remained
- compression test shows all four are slightly down but still between 150-160

3) Rough idle / miss - intermittent and sometimes feels like the engine is just about to stall.

I am at my wits end. Even if I could get rid of the rattle in order to get a decent trade-in would help. I have read so many forums but it is rare to see an endpoint for the posters with the problem. What I have found out is that the stalling issue within minutes of start up is a problem experienced by quite a number of LPG converted XTrail owners. It seems to be something in the LPG system related to temperature control/sensor but I just don't understand what it could be.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance

Danielle
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Date Registered: 07-2012
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Hi while I'm new to the xtrail lpg is an old foe of mine. The rough idle/miss and the random stall could possibly be a vacuum leak on the inlet manifold or it's plumbing. Might be worth checking all the plumbing, throttle body, injectors etc.

The rattle could well be heat shield on the exhaust. And if you have been using the same mechanic or workshop for everything you have had done it might be well worth changing it sounds like you are spending lots of money on minimal results.

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Hi guys. Just gonna add my recent crappy experience with my exie. It is a 2006 STS and when I bought it, it already had LPG installed and had done 70000km. Just before Xmas last year the Mil light started coming on, so I went to a mechanic(my usual was mechanic was away) and they checked it over and thought it might be sensors etc so started with o2 sensors. Still no joy after that and various other tests he couldnt find the issue. By this time the car was running rough as guts, and then, yes started over heating. Thankfully by this time my mechanic was back so had the car towed straight to him. Head gasket gone, and the valves burnt out. No apparent damage done to the head so they went ahead and replaced valves with hardened ones and new head gasket. Apparently the valves were totally stuffed from the LPG. There goes $3500
Ok, I get the car back and it is running beautifully and then 2 weeks later the dreaded Mil light again. I checked it and was Random Misfire, same as before. The heart started pumping overtime. Back to the mechanic. Chucked the consult on and random misfire. He thought it could be Crank sensors, so ordered some in. While waiting for the new sensors to come, she over heated again and yes, toasted. Without going into detail, apparently something to do with the pistons which was not able to be detected the first time, and the direct cause was from the LPG. Am now waiting for another engine to be put in which has about 80,000km on it, and removing the LPG for good. My mechanic is also not charging me any labor costs for the new engine as he felt pretty crap about it. Still gonna cost me about $4000 though . But I am having a few other things replaced at the same time.Thats about $7500 in about 2 months and that hurts The reason I have written this novel is to warn anyone that is thinking of or already has installed LPG to make sure that you keep an eye on your engine and do not overuse the LPG as it can stuff your engine and bank balance big time. Cheers. But I still Love my Exy))
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Date Registered: 10-2006
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Hi Mark,
Could you let us know what type of LPG system it was ?
Have you approached the manufacturer/importer of it to see if there is anything they can help with or atleast get their opinion on why this has happened ?

I would also like Peter60 to comment regarding the Liquid Injection LPG system they have.

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Hi Kev. It was a Tartarini Sequential Gas Injection Systems. I haven't followed up with the manufacturer as when I bought the car, there was no paperwork or information on the system or who installed it in the car, so I couldn't see any point. Have got to the point now that I just want my car to run properly without any dramas, and I guess the LPG for me, just isn't worth the risk anymore.
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In WA a spare tire must be fitted safely in the back.I made my own mount bolting to the 3 off,12mm bolts that hold the rear drivers side shock absorber to the car body.Tire stands vertical & just off the floor.Will put it on my lomasck YouTube to look at. $150 should be all it should cost to get one made like this.

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Another case of burnt valves and pistons from extended LPG use here.

Seems the standard valves and pistons are not suited to LPG use and time is just starting to show this with the number of failures we are starting to see.

I'd like to hear from Peter60 or anyone who has the LPG Injection System about how long they have had an Xtrail fitted with LPG which is still running without problems and what percentage of LPG v's Petrol running they have done to-date.

Maybe the problems we are seeing could be from people running totally on LPG and not using petrol for a minimum period at regular intervals as Peter60 initially explained when he introduced the system.

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hi Kev
Have had lpg for 80000km with no prblems to date. Running about 85% on gas. Still runs beutifully.
regards
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