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Re: Where to mount a rear view camera? ** Now with DIY Guide **


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... but what is a "dials cluster garnish" ????



It is that small bit of lettuce at the side of your dash!! emoticon

Seriously, it is the plastic bit that covers the instrument panel.


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Re: Where to mount a rear view camera? ** Now with DIY Guide **


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It is that small bit of lettuce at the side of your dash!! emoticon



That's the one LOL emoticon

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Seriously, it is the plastic bit that covers the instrument panel.



That's more like it emoticon



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Re: Where to mount a rear view camera? ** Now with DIY Guide **


Wired my camera's in over the last week.

Car setup:

I decided to have the unit on all the time (rather than just reverse). Later I may just do reverse only, but that will simply turn the LCD on or off, the camera will be permanently on.

I mounted the camera in the plastic fog light thing as seen on page two of this thread. I couldnt work out how to thread the wires through the hole as described so I took a different route. I brought a length of 4 wire cable, and soldered an AV and power plug at one end, which connect to the camera inside the rear bumper. I then thread this cable out from the bumber at the base near between the bumper and the tow bar rail. It then enters the spare tyre well through the same rubber seal as the trailer light plug.

I then connect power from the rear cigarette socket. I pulled the socket out (wedge a blade under it an it pops out), and soldered a wire to both terminals. Then feed that wire back behind the inside of the boot to below the jack holder (it just pulls out). This is then connected to my cable to provide power. From then on, I use the AV extension cable that comes with the camera to run it back to the dash (currently just under the carpet).

The 7" LCD sits in the driver side glove box. powered by the cigarette lighter socket in there.

The caravan:
I mounted the camera at the rear of the van, running the same 4 wire cable along the floor back to the draw bar where I soldered a cigarette lighter plug and AV connector to the end. These plug into the rear cigarette lighter of the xtrail, with the cable just being stuck between the rear hatch door when closed. (It doesnt seem to damage the cable). An AV extension cord runs to the front screen.

My impressions:
- The picture is fairly grainy, but definately usable.
- Both camera's seem suseptable to glare which comes up as a purple shade on the LCD. This is a little annoying.
- The caravan camera has a loose wire inside it somewhere, which is causing it to drop out now and then. Quite annoying which I'll need to fix.
- The LCD in the glove box is a good location, but the steering wheel sometimes sits right in front of your line of sight.
- Driving with a rear view camera on a caravan is an absolute MUST HAVE in my opinion. Excellent visibility.
- Similar for car, although there is a small blind spot on each side of the car where an obstacle could still hide. But still miles better than mirrors.
- Fog light location is awesome for reversing up to hitch up the caravan!

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Re: Where to mount a rear view camera? ** Now with DIY Guide **


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Nice one Geoff! So how are you planning to mount this screen? Will you take the lid off completely? I can't see how you could fit a 7" screen in there and still have the lid close.





I didnt have to remove the lid at all. The LCD comes with a stick-down base. It fits nicely inside the glove box, and the sticky base seems really secure (it survived a day at Stockton beach!). At the moment my AV cables are running out the front of the box and down the side by the drink holder, so I'll need to drill a whole in the glove box to hide them behind the dash.




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Re: Where to mount a rear view camera? ** Now with DIY Guide **


Sounds great Geoff! I can see how a permanent camera on the back of a caravan would be a huge benefit. Have you considered a wireless camera for the van? You could power it off the electrics for lights (if there is a permanent +ve there) and then not ever have to worry about connecting it up or loose connections.

I don't get any glare on my camera at all, not sure if it is the camera or the head unit that is adjusting but you can see it adjusting for light levels when it comes on and it ends up with a really clear picture in almost all light conditions. Might be worth getting a better quality camera?

Are you going to post some pics of you install?


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Re: Where to mount a rear view camera? ** Now with DIY Guide **


Wireless cameras cost a lot more, plus there is no permanent +'ve on a standard 7 pin trailer plug.
The connecting up is really not a problem, since the caravan isnt used that often.

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Re: Where to mount a rear view camera? ** Now with DIY Guide **


Guys,

I found an easy solution to mount a reversing camera. Have a look HERE

I saw one attached to a 4WD today on my way back from work and it looked cool.

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Re: Where to mount a rear view camera? ** Now with DIY Guide **


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Guys,

I found an easy solution to mount a reversing camera. Have a look HERE

I saw one attached to a 4WD today on my way back from work and it looked cool.



Great find Jalal! That is awesome.


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Re: Where to mount a rear view camera? ** Now with DIY Guide **


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Guys,

I found an easy solution to mount a reversing camera. Have a look HERE

I saw one attached to a 4WD today on my way back from work and it looked cool.



I bought one of these style camera's off eBay last week from THIS seller. If you find a current listing for the license plate camera and look closely at the pictures it appears that there are IR LEDs down each side of the lens. I asked this seller about this and they confirmed that this unit DOES NOT have IR night vision.

I bought the unit anyway because the application I need it for does not really need IR. Well the unit turned up this week (quick service from HK) and there really are IR LEDs down each side of the lens!! This is strange because even the picture on the packet does not show these and the Min Lux is stated as 2.0 (IR units state 0.0 as they can see in pitch black).

I have yet to test it out but I can't imagine that they would fit them in the unit and not have them active! Looks like I have scored myself an IR reversing cam for $45 shipped!! emoticon

The unit is quite chunky but looks well made. Not sure I would ever put it on my license plate (I have other plans for mine! emoticon ) but I could imagine it mounted down low on the under bumper plastic guard (if you don't have a towbar).

Also comes complete with a loooong AV cable.

Anyway, thought you might like to know before I tell the seller about the IR LEDs and they up the price!! emoticon



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Re: Where to mount a rear view camera? ** Now with DIY Guide **


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Anyway, thought you might like to know before I tell the seller about the IR LEDs and they up the price!! emoticon




Well mate, don't tell the seller and keep it as our little forum secret emoticon



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