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T31 Diesel Auto Oil drain and Level


Hi all. I have a 2008 T31 diesel aotu first registered Feb 2009. It has 75000k on the clock and I do a fair bit of towing so I want to change the transmission lubricant.
I have a copy of the electronic service manual. I took the vehicle to my local and well respected auto specialist and he cant find the drain plug. I looked also and agree there doesn't seem to be one.
We looked at the electronic service manual and still cant find the plug.

Has anyone had a similar experience?

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Kevin,

Look under the Maintenance section of the ESM for details on how to drain the gear oil and transfer case oil

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Thanks El Preso, I have looked at the ESM, particularly pages TM329,330, 331 and TM 351 and 355.
I neglected to mention that I have an RE6FO1A transmission.
The problem is we cant find the drain plug. Since page TM331 points out that draining must be made by following part of the procedure 3 times I am wondering if the drain plug is somewhere other than the bottom of the casing.

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Well, TM-351 clearly shows the drain plug at the bottom of the casing, so if your mechanic can't identify it, get him to call a Nissan dealer for help emoticon

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Hi Kevin

I am now facing the same problem as you. I have a 2013 X-Trail T31 Diesel M9R with automatic transmission. I am the only owner of this car and have always serviced with my with the local Nissan dealer. Recently, I have noticed that transmission fluid was never changed, then when trying to have that serviced I have realised that there is no drain plug and level tube (both are supposed to go in the same hole underneath the gear box). I have asked the Nissan dealer about this issue and they have told me there was a revision of the gear box at some point, and the drain plug, level tube and hole were removed from the gear box design. They have told me that it is required to remove the front pan for a fluid change. I have asked a quote for this service a number of times and they do not get back to me.

Some other local car shops told me that if we remove the front pan we might be able to drain part of the fluid, but there is no way to completely flush the old fluid and measure the correct level when putting new one. I am really frustrated as it seems that there is no proper way to change the fluid.

I am considering to make a complain to Nissan and ACCC about it, to see if I can have some sort of compensation for this design flaw.

I wonder how things were with you. Have you manage to properly change the transmission fluid of your car?

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Hello Marcio,

Your mechanic does not need to remove the front pan to drain the oil from the RE6F01A transmission.

Check this information from the service manual in our DIY section

T31 A/T (non-cvt) Oil Change & Level Check

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Hey Kevin,

I have a 2012 Diesel turbo 6 Spd Auto.
I've been reading thru posts trying to see what fluids people use.

There is a post which provides pages from the service manual on changing fluid which states fluid is inject thru the top via the Turbine revolution sensor , weird but It's all explained in the link provided in the post above by revhead kev.

I see you posted a while back so maybe you solved your drain plug issue.

My issue if you can advise is which fluid to use.
My book says use Matic S otherwise Matic J can be used.
The dif is a bout $100 per tin. Reading between the lines it appears J is an older product used on earlier models, so I'm presuming the $165 Matic S must be more highly advanced .

What ATF did you use in the end.?

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You can fill thru the drain hole with the level tube on place. You will need M10x1 pipe tube, bigger garden pressure pump. I used 8L one and replaced the spray noxxle with a hose and then pressurized the pump and pumped same amount in that came out. Run the engine, circulate the atf and then do it again few times to flush out the old fluid.

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Re: T31 Diesel Auto Oil drain and Level

Hi Guys,

It's my 1st post here but I read this forum since some time. I found the link on Polish Nissan forum and your tips helped me couple times.

I own an X-trail T31, 2012, 2.0 dCi diesel engine (M9R) with hydraulic AT RE6F01A (Jatco JF613E). I decided to change the ATF but I want to make it "dynamic" way (flush + replace whole fluid) at my garage. I don't have a special machine but after reading this and couple other forums I'm sure I will succed. The only thing I need is to check the temp. of ATF inside the pan. I use Torque Pro with I-Car2 Vgate OBDII (ELM 327) BT adapter but I don't know the PID and formula to check the AT temperature readings. Could you please share your knowledge? Do you know what PID should I put into Torque Pro to get the propper readings? The most importan is pan temp. but it would be nice to know converter AT temp. - in couple weeks I would like to add a towing package and make a digital set of gauges using an Android device.

Arek

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Re: T31 Diesel Auto Oil drain and Level


Having worked as a mechanic many years ago, and knowing a little about servicing of vehicles, some auto transmissions were designed not to be serviced.

BMW for example advise not to change the AFT in your car and do not have a drain bung either.
As long as the car gets through its warranty period, they don't care.

There is always a way in to change it however. You may have to remove an inner CV (depending on the oil needing to be changed), or crack the gearbox apart and pry open the sealing glue, or remove the flat pan under the auto trans loosening the bolts at one end and removing all the rest so you can pry a corner open for a controlled empty without covering the workshop floor. Make sure you also find where to refill them as I used to use a long piece of garden hose into the dipstick hole and a funnel at the other

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