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Date Registered: 06-2012
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Re: Particulate filter error resulting in MIL light


Any thoughts on why i never had the particulate filter ever come up before. A couple days ago for the first time ever the particulate filter light came up and then 3 hours later down the highway it still hadn't gone out but then, the MIL light came on too.
 
Background info, 135000 kms on car, had it since 58000 km.
90% of the driving done with the car is 6 hr straight highway road trips.
I've been using acea a3 equivalent oil as per the guy at nissan told me to look for on the bottle that he showed me on the nissan bottle and 75% of the time fill up with caltex vortex diesel.
The other day when the particulate filter light came i was just leaving a town after a 30 min stop over (had a 2 1/2 hour highway drive just before) and was just starting a 6 hr highway drive to my next destination.


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Date Registered: 08-2012
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Sam, simple answer is that your vehichle is roughly 5 yrs old with 135k on the clock & things can break/wear out etc. Had this issue with my 2012 model from new. It was an issue with a bad batch of butterfly valves. There is a how to thread about cleaning the EGR. Maybe have a go at doing that. It also give you a chance to see if there's something else wrong with it.

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Date Registered: 08-2011
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Reason you have never seen the DPF light is that you highway driving is perfect for regenerating the DPF. It's very likely that the reason you have both lights on now is that your EGR valve is clogged. Give is a clean and hopefully it will come good.

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Date Registered: 06-2012
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thanks for the responses, i just finished cleaning the valve out, i'll take it out now for a run and see what happens, as I can't seem to clear the mil light code following a few ways talked about here on the forum (ecu reset or the diagnostic mode, couldn't get either to work) ... may have to go to the dealer to clear it if it does go out on its own on this run.

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Date Registered: 06-2012
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just got back from the dealer, they said the mil light fault code is dpf full, exceeds
particulate matter limit per dpf.
they said they could replace the dpf for $3600.
they said maybe the self burn wasn't triggered, but they couldn't check
for that until the dpf was replaced.
when i started up the car now no longer dpf light, but still mil light.
not sure what to do now

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Get the codes cleared would be the first thing to try. If your highway driving as much as you say it seems unlikely that the DPF would not be regenerating. How clogged up was the EGR valve when you cleaned it?

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toddyh03, the dealer said that mil code would stay there due to the dpf being full they said.

the egr valve was dirty, very similar looking to what your egr valve cleaning post showed in your pictures, (which was also very similar to what it looked like last time i cleaned it a year ago 45K ago)

i've got to drive 550km early tomorrow morning (highway) ... hopefully the egr cleaning i did will help

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If the DPF is clogged then I would think the DPF light would be on.

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Date Registered: 10-2011
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I tend to agree with Toddyh in that I would have thought that if there were a fault with the DPF it would have illuminated the DPF light.

Might be worth getting a second opinion on the fault.

Another thought is that Wynns actually markets a DPF Cleaner and regenerator product.

Read about the product at http://www.autoproducts.com.au/dieselparticulatefilter.html

Some fairly positive reviews of this product are at http://reviews.halfords.com/4028/325222/reviews.htm

Note that it is a professional product so you might need to pick it up from a Wynns distributor. Look for one at http://www.wynnspro.com.au/distributor-locator



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Date Registered: 06-2012
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just got back, put on 1200km since my last post 1100 of it highway, no dpf light, but still mil light... i've ordered my own obd2 tool so hopefully i'll be able to read and clear this code myself and maybe i'll be able to read the pressure sensor differential ?? don't know if it'll be supported,

((( i was talking to another fitter who works on equipment and he remembered at time where the one he was working on (caterpillar) pressure differential said the dpf was full, even though it wasn't and he had to clean the the build up getting to the sensors, and with that caterpillar it wouldn't go into doing a particulate burn due to sensors saying dpf was full)))

so I was planning on going down that route to make sure the sensor's clean enough(and tubes)
to get a good reading,... even change out the sensor is a more viable option than the dpf to
start. I was also trying to find the electrical schematic for that circuit in the electronic service manual, but so far i can only find the pictorial of the parts layout, but not the schematic,
I don't know my way around that manual that well.

I'm going to find a buy some of that dpf cleaner you mentioned exywarrior it could very well
help clean the sensor's reading as well too.

if i can't get anywhere with the codes i'll have to try and take it elsewhere to get a second opinion




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