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Date Registered: 02-2004
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Sounds good Vincent, but you could have ordered the Alutec from the distributor in Malaysia too emoticon

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Date Registered: 05-2012
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I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but I spent today looking for information on strut bar reinforcement.

The common bars were 1/2 the price of the exotica for the X-trail, so I went to a suspension/performance specialist who said he would build whatever I liked but his first question was "Do you want actual performance or just looks? "

He went on to say that the only way a strut bar can work to stiffen the tops of the suspension is if it forms a straight line across, reinforced by a triangle bolted to the firewall.

He suggested that all else is just for looks as any bend creates a 'spring ' and any pivot point creates a hinge.

He said that with either springs and/or hinges, no bar can work to hold the suspension strut tops locked in position.

It might look impressive, but has no stiffening/engineering effect as its designed to flex at the bend and at the joints..

If it flexes, it has failed its task.

That made sense to me - from the engineering side alone as he had no axe to grind.

Mind you, his field is racing cars, not big, doughy, lurching SUV's: but the same physics apply

Note: he did quickly show how to immediately strengthen suspension & reduce flex for some vehicles by simply welding plates over the open face of trailing arms . Amazingly simple.



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And he's 100% correct and most of the cheap made strut bars indeed flex at the joints and don't form a straight sold line between the strut towers. This doesn't apply to the strut bars we are fitting to the xtrail which doesn't flex at the joints at all. Had it been for looks only, it wouldn't have provided the results every single xtrail owner has experienced to date.

Be careful of cheap copies and backyard jobs!

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Date Registered: 12-2009
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The Alutec bar definitely does the job. I have had some one else drive my X-Trial before and after without knowing an Alutec had been fitted. The comment was " what have you done, it is so much firmer in the corners ? " Thoroughly recommended.

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Date Registered: 06-2011
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Havent fitted mine yet waiting for first service but when i do what is the torque setting for the shock tower nuts for a T31 Ser 4 ?

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Hi Neil,

The torque setting is highlighted in the document below

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Thanks Jalal

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Date Registered: 06-2011
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Here is the photos Jalal, hopefully.

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Neil (x-1966)
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I fixed your photos Neil.

Please refer to the previous page for the instsllation procedure, everything is where it should be and the strut bar I sent you has been fitted to a petrol Series 4 before as well without any dramas. Make sure you position the brackets correctly and also make sure you remove the air filter box for the right bracket to sit under it.

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Ok will give it a go could you give me the exact fitting link to mine please.

It seems that when i get to actually fitting brackets they will be lower again and dont know how the bar sits above those points in the photo.At the moment im resting bar and brackets ontop of bolts and it strikes those points.
Anyway im going to give it a go thanks Jalal

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