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Date Registered: 09-2010
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front brake shudder on 2.0 dci 2009 model


hi all,
what can be the cause of a brake shutter when braking from 120 kph and higher.
ive checked the pads and disc all still looks good.

what else can i check for??

regards


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Date Registered: 06-2008
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The discs are warped and need machining.
The front discs are very soft on the T31 and become distorted very quickly.
I do a lot of towing and am due for my second machining, its a 2008 model.

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Re: front brake shutter on 2.0 dci 2009 model


how does this happen the warping of the discs??
car has 36000km on clock and still under warranty?

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Re: front brake shutter on 2.0 dci 2009 model


is this a major thing to do to machine the discs

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Discs warp in a varioys of conditions. Heavy or hard quick braking, towing, quick changes in temperature or driving with the left foot on the brake pedal.
Unfortunately its not a warranty issue as its like the tyres, brake pads and wiper blades, consumables.

You can take the car to any tyre fitter as they can machine your discs, or your Local Nissan dealer can do it too. Just mention it to them when you service the car next.

Here in Australia you can expect to pay around the $100 mark.

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Re: front brake shutter on 2.0 dci 2009 model


thks for feedback tony

what worry's me is that my xtrail only has 36500km on the clock, i have arrange to take to someone to have them skimmed, the dealer is crazy with the price they quoted me.

reall hope this sorts the issue

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Hi Guys Augustus here, I too warped my front brake rotors at fairly low km's going down a mountain range near Coffs Harbour.

So my owners are going to fit me with DBA 4X4 survival series t2 Front and t3 rear rotors, they should last the rest of my lifetime, and will help me stop a lot lot quicker and more consistently, I'm also getting Bendix 4X4 pads. emoticon

Have a great day, from Augustus the X Trail. emoticon
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Re: front brake shudder on 2.0 dci 2009 model


If you want honest advice from a brake expert get onto Greg at GSL Rallysport, he will sort you out with good advice not just sell you the dearest stuff. He knows it all from high performance(he set me up with the good stuff for my 450hp silvia) and he can upgrade stock brake parts aswell.

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The question was asked by a member from South Africa guys! Please keep this in mind when providing responses and/or referring international members to local Australian businesses emoticon

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what worry's me is that my xtrail only has 36500km on the clock,



Regrettably, it only takes one instance of overheating to cause the original rotors to warp enough to give a pulse when applying the brakes thereafter.

Depending on the age of the rotors and expected lifespan of the OEM items (previous in the forum would indicate that it is not much) then go by the local cost of machining vs replacement with a heavier duty version for you.

I've sat behind people who rest a foot on the brakes for the entire length of the downward incline. {Their brakes would be cooked at the bottom}

That tends to disrupt my rhythm of allowing speed to build, then apply brakes to bring speed to below my desired average but then allow gravity to bring that speed back up, then apply the brakes again in a regular rhythm which allows the brakes to cool between applications.

By touching the brakes to shed speed downhill and then regularly taking the foot off to allow them relief to cool down, they do not overheat (and warp).

Riding the brakes on even a few Km of a downhill run is likely to cook them enough to get red hot rotors. Side effects of that excess heat are always unpleasant.

I learned very quickly in old cars with leading edge drum brakes that the moment they got hot they failed to function at all, but the lesson that "heat is the enemy to brakes" is still applicable today.

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