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Date Registered: 07-2015
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T31 Drivers Seat Electric


My driver seat has now decided to stay in the lowered position. When it hit the bottom, there was a clunk, and thats where it remains. When you push the button to go up, it lifts about 10mm, the motor loads up and stops. The motor is not freewheeling so the gears are ok. It sounds like its jamming somewhere. Has anyone come across this before?

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Date Registered: 10-2010
Location: Bathurst, NSW
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Eric I had a similar problem going back about 5 years i think. I have fitted seat covers with straps that go under the seat and I put the problem down to that restricting the upward movement of the seat. I was lucky enough to have extended warranty and the location dealership repaired it for me. I can't remember exactly what the issue was, but I'm pretty sure it had something to do with broken teeth.

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I have a feeling you may be right. When it loads up, it sounds like a gear tooth trying to climb over the top of another tooth and then stops. I was wondering what I might do this weekend. Now I know,.......I'll be pulling the seat apart. I'll post what I find, Thanks Whip.

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Re: T31 Drivers Seat Electric


I removed the plastic side cover off the seat, and found the electric motor and gear were ok. The problem was the lowest gear tooth on the rack of the upper moving seat frame was broken/snapped off. Its not a very thick metal. I would've thought for that weight bearing gear rack section, they could have increased the thickness of the metal for more strength. But anyway. I lifted the seat manually until the electric motor gear re-engaged with the next tooth up from the broken one on the rack, and now it's working again. However, I have now limited the downward travel of the seat by putting a thick rubber spacer in between the moving upper, and lower seat frame. Now, when it lowers down to the rubber, it's 1 tooth away from the broken one. This would've been a different story had the tooth broken in a different position. It took about an hour to do and there's also no need to pull the seat out, as once you take the plastic side cover off, its all there in front of you.

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Location: Mona Vale, Sydney, AUSTRALIA
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Well done Eric and thanks for sharing.
Maybe a pic of the rubber spacer if it is at all possible for anyone with the same problem

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Thanks Kev. I'll take a few photos and post them soon.

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Date Registered: 12-2010
Location: Macquarie Fields SYDNEY
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Great job Eric.
I read all your "fixes" closely as I have the same exy as yours you may recall.
Something has to go wrong soon as I have had no problems since I purchased the ride. (except for a couple of rear bumper replacements and "pin stripe" touch ups).
My wife and I are traveling out to Uluru in September then on to Western Qld etc before heading home so I would like anything that is going to go wrong to happen now.
The exy will have a complete check, service, CVT fluid replacement before I go anyway.

And you only live just down the road so that's a bonus if I ever had to humbly ask for your expert help............................

Pics would be great.


cheers


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No problem Dave. Don't know about the "expert", but if I can help in any way let me know. I've had a few problems with mine, starting with the fuel pump at 100,000 ks, but I'm still on the original brakes and rotors all round at 150,000 ks. How many k's have you done? It might be an idea to see if they can check your fuel pump pressure whilst your having it serviced before you go. Also, I have a spare new a/c coil clutch assembly you can take with you on your travels just in case it decides to fail like mine did not long ago. Its not to hard to install, but not commonly available. Nissan wanted to charge a fortune for it, around $700 just for the coil, and other places wanted to change the whole compressor. Aliexpress has them for around $40-$50 plus shipping. There's very good videos on youtube on changing the coil on a nissan Altima, which has the same assembly. Pics are coming.

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Date Registered: 12-2010
Location: Macquarie Fields SYDNEY
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Thanks for the offer Eric. I've only done 118,000ks so will have fuel pump pressure checked. I have had the serpentine belt replaced and upgraded brake 4WD brake discs last year.

The drivers seat gets adjusted regularly between when I drive and my wife drives the car so your post will remind me to check the rack teeth if something does go wrong.

cheers and will view your pics when they become available.

cheers again





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Date Registered: 07-2015
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Here's some photos.

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You can see the broken tooth. This damage may be caused by weight, or by overloading the motor at the lowest level, but even though I try to stop lowering the seat before it loads up at the bottom, its nearly impossible to do. So by fitting the rubber blocks, you will hear the electric motor start to load up before it puts force on the steel gear rack tooth. Its quite a simple fix using any firm rubber. Maybe a trip to Clark rubber. The silicone hasn't held it in place, so I'm going to try double sided tape.
Admin Edit: Photos fixed.

Thanks Jalal.

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