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Date Registered: 12-2016
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Which Xtrail to choose?! Petrol Vs Diesel


Hi everyone

I am buying my first Xtrail and trying to decide between two i have narrowed it down to.

Both are 2010 Manuals, one is an ST petrol, the other TL diesel

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-view-details.html?adId=1136477649
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-view-details.html?adId=1136737251

Is it worth the extra 4 grand for the Diesel?

Most of our driving is a half an hour round trip into town twice a day (we live rural) and longer runs to the bigger town (40 mins each way) then the occasional trip up the coast (6 hours)

We want something that will last a long time and is going to be reliable. We had an I30 Diesel that blew the turbo and engine @240k km, would have thought diesels would last much longer..

Thanks!

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My two cents worth is buy the diesel. Especially for what you will be using it for and the TL is better equipped than the ST.

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Thanks, that seems to be the general idea i am getting.. the trip into town is only at about 60-70 km/h would that be ok for the DFP? or is a good run every few weeks enough
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Those people that have problems with the DPF, general do short runs that don't allow the motor to get to full operating temperature. I think the twice daily 30 minute round trip, the longer trip into the bigger town and the 6 hour trip up the coast will be enough to minimise any DPF problems. I have two diesel cars, a Mazda 3 MZR-CD which has done 150,000 kms and the T32 Xtrail TL with 70,000 kms (in two years). I would never own another petrol driven car.

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Hi Jacob,

You haven't said how frequent your 40min trips will be. If the majority of your trips are the short, low speed ones and the 40min trip is only every couple of weeks or less then I'd probably consider getting a patrol model, unless you are regularly getting your RPM up over 2000 or have a mechanic who can do forced burns on a regular basis. Alternatively do some of your short trips in a lower gear to get your RPM up over 2000, even as high as 3-4000rpm for at least 10 mins. The trick to not having the DPF foul really is in keeping the RPMs higher and/or longer trips, undulating areas are particularly good.

I've done just under 200k kms (in a bit over 6 years) in my 2010 TL and have never had an issue, but I have done a lot of open road driving where the taco regularly sits on or above the 2000RPM mark and I do drive through the gears around town.

I agree with John that if the diesel is for you then the TL is definitely worth the extra cash.

Allan



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That's a good idea, could definitely do that
I just found out the diesel missed one service, is that a deal breaker? So it went 20,000km between rather than the 10,000 it's supposed to, but just once, every other service has been done on time
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Could be an issue depending on which service was missed, but I'd be looking more at k's travelled. It's always nice to buy a car with low k's, but low k's on a diesel could be a potential problem. If you're purchasing from a dealer then there should be some warranty, but if not I'd seriously consider having a professional mechanical inspection.

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Thanks

I'm also looking at this one

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-view-details.html?adId=1138271749

Such a hard decision!
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What did you end up going with? I am facing the same question.
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And at some point soon, I'll also be looking for a 2011-12 T31 TL, but auto. I took the opinion, if I'm going to spend the most money on a car I ever have, it was going to be "noice", so electric heated seats, HID headlights, and all the good gear on the TL, bugger the cost!

But I'm having trouble finding low KM's examples. 100,000-200,000kms for a 5-6 year old car is a LOT for me. I'll gladly pay the premium for a 50,000-70,000km model. The 2013 model Suzuki Swift I bought my partner had 19,000kms on it when we bought it. My 1997 Pathfinder had 58,000kms on it when I bought it in 2004.

But I am being distracted with a Jeep Renegade Trailhawk....has a "4 LOW" option the T31 doesn't, but it's not a 'true' low range. It just locks the torque converter and the auto into the lowest gearing. And they don't import the diesel into Aust (Arrgh!) emoticon

Very interesting sitting the T30 next to it. The doors line up 'exactly', and the back is only 10cm cm shorter I'd say. Definitely an optical illusion that it looks a lot shorter in the back than the Exy, cause it's not when you put them side by side. Oh, and this was a "street" version, not the 'Trailhawk' off-road version. (Just look at that front approach angle / clearance, Errg!) emoticon
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Err, sorry for the 'hi-jack'...didn't mean to, just 'discussing' options to a T31 TL, which I am looking at, in case anyone was interested.

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