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Tomkazz

Rear spring spacer sounds very interesting.

Have looked into this and it is a big no without some heavy duty engineering.



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Hi all.
I installed 30mm lift to the front, and about 35 to the rear of my T31 diesel.

The front was ok to do once I found the third top bolt. Take the windscreen wiper out, then under the plastic drain tray you will find the third bolt. I got them out and back in, no trouble in under 3 hours.

The rears were more interesting but still done in another 3 hours.
It did not take major engineering work, just me and a mate.
I lifted the vehicle by the body and let the suspension hang, removed wheels.
I undid the sway bar mount and the shock absorber.
Next I got a mate to apply pressure to the back of the bottom arm to release more pressure off the spring, and managed to wiggle the spring out.
Once out the lifting block was put in and the spring compressed. I used a couple of old ratchet tie downs, but would recommend proper spring compressors as long as you can get them back in place and undo them, failing that old ratchet tie downs and then cut them if you can't undo them. I used a thin bar out the back of the bottom arm with a mates body weight on it enough to get them in and out, the passenger side was harder with less room due to the fuel tank being close, but it went in and the T31 is now sitting higher.
On test driving after the lift, I found a little more wollow from the suspension, but not enough to worry about. The travel in the standard shocks meant I did not have to replace them. - easy
It is now ready for the next step of the operation, being bigger wheels. I reckon I will get 235/7/17's in now, but plan to get to a tyre shop and simpy ask for the biggest possible.

Hope this helps
Andy
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Date Registered: 02-2016
Location: Adelaide, South Australia
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Andy,

good to see you were able to swap out the stock springs without major surgery to the rear of the vehicle.
Like you said, using the correct spring compressors is much safer.
I tried the ratchet strap idea as well until one of them snapped under load.
Invested in a good set of coil clamps for $100 (well worth it).

I recently found some more spacer ideas for the rear and front.
The below items are available of ebay for $150.
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I'm just not certain about the polyurethane makeup. in my experience the rubber compound does break down. if someone has any more experience in this area please explain further.

I have personally designed the front strut spacers out of steel and will do the same for the rear, the only difference is I will be using stainless steel.

This should give me the max 2" lift with out having to go to motor reg and justify my mods.

cheers,
Tom



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Hi Tom, what did you search for on ebay to find these as I'd like to look into them a bit further. Thanks

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I have personally designed the front strut spacers out of steel and will do the same for the rear, the only difference is I will be using stainless steel.



If you are designing and making your own strut spacers, make sure there is an offset allowance for the camber change when you lift the suspension.

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Hi guys,

it was a bit random as i was searching for other items and they popped up emoticon

The oz ebay item number is 263566588354. not sure if this breaks the forum rules, sorry Jalal.

They certainly are interesting.

The units in the listing don't seem to allow for any camber, they are (or look to be) flat.
From what i can see, the way that nissan has designed the vehicle is that the camber is taken care of by the way the top strut mount is fixed to the moulded part of the car body.

please correct me if i'm wrong. its been a while since i removed the front struts.

cheers,
Tom

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Thanks for the details Tom. I put raised springs and new shocks and struts in a while back, but I'm seriously thinking about taking them back out and going standard again because the ride is just too hard and bumpy and shakin' me to bits. I don't go offroad often enough to justify the uncomfortable ride on the bitumen every day. I'm thinking about fitting firestone airbags on the rear for when I'm towing, and now I'll look into these coil spacers for the extra lift. Watch out with that high lift because I found that with the 25mm lift the dobinsons gave me, I noticed the rhs front outer cv joint rubber boot was wearing/rubbing out on itself on the lowest point of rotation (hard to explain) while rotating, causing it to wear prematurely. Are you thinking about making more of these spacers? I read in that ebay listing that there is an adjustment range of ± 4 degrees on those coil spacers. Thanks again Tom, Cheers.


**That coil spacer number doesn't seem to work anymore...

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Eric,

Apologies, i posted the number and later decided to purchase the item.
Once i receive them i'll see how well i can replicate them.
I have access to a large manufacturing plant that can manufacture many wonderful steel products.

I'll keep everyone updated.

I take note of your reference to the CV boot rubbing. I have noticed some wear on the outer most cv boot ring as well, it hasn't worried me too much and if it does wear through i'll get a replacement one that doesn't rub. i had a few kits that i went through after the left cv boot ruptured, still don't know how. The only way i found out was after noticing the grease on the inside of the alloy wheel.

cheers,
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Sorry Tom, it's the RHS front inner cv joint rubber boot that was wearing prematurely, as it has the shorter shaft needing more of an angle. Its easily visible once the wheel is removed. The outer cv joint is a plastic boot from memory. Keen to see how you go with the spacers.

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All good.

If it gets really bad with the way the stock cv boots are behaving i'll have to put on a set of high angle boots.

For further info google 'high angle CV boot kit' you'll know what I mean.

cheers
Tom

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