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sheltiephil
X-TRAIL NEWBIE
Date Registered: 12-2015
TOTAL POSTS: 12
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Just bought 2002 X Trail - using oil
2002 X TRAIL T30 ST How much oil should my X Trail be using? I admit that I'm not knowledgeable. I'm still trying to pin down the amount, but it seems to be using a pint or half a litre every few hundred kilometres, and I'm told it shouldn't use any between 5000 km services. I just bought it with 200,000 km (120,000 miles) on the clock. It hardly produces any blue smoke and there are not any leaks. The car has plenty of power, runs quietly, doesn't seem to smell when running, and seems to have been looked after generally, though there is no service record. Compression is 158, 158, 132, 132. I'm told that the rings might be sticking, and using a detergent oil might fix the problem. I have just started using Shell Helix HX7 10w40 synthetic oil. I've read that this might help, but haven't used it for long and haven't had an engine flush. Do you think the engine flush will be a good idea, and should I continue to use the Shell Helix or the Castrol 5w30 mentioned in these forums? The dealer that sold the car has taken a couple of odometer readings and appears to have measured the oil used to top up. He suggested 3-400ml over, I think, about 300kms was reasonable for the age and mileage of the engine. Is this fair? I'll be taking the car back to the dealer next week for another reading of oil consumption and odometer, and want to have some idea what might be wrong when I have to try to negotiate. Could there be another wild factor such as catalytic converter or butterfly valve as mentioned in other posts here - excuse my ignorance - did not understand these references. Sorry for so many questions. Not expecting any simple answers - just maybe some suggestions for my meeting with the car dealer's service rep. How much oil should the car be using? Is this a common problem at this mileage? What should I do? - Regards, Phil (Tasmania, Australia)
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1/Jan/2016, 2:35 pm
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Revhead Kev
Date Registered: 10-2006
Location: Mona Vale, Sydney, AUSTRALIA
TOTAL POSTS: 6355
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Re: Just bought 2002 X Trail - using oil
Hi Phil,
My Xtrail started using oil after it had around 120k on it without a smoky exhaust and after reading a post by another member about the timing chain tensioner needing oil pressure to function correctly at higher rpm and the standard 5W30 grade oil not giving enough pressure at those rpm and it not really being suited to our higher summer temps, I changed to 5W40 Penrite full-synth.
The oil usage stopped and so did the suspected noise from the timing chain tensioner.
So keep with the 10W40 and stay away from the 5W30 now that your engine is in the older age bracket and let us know how it goes after a few thou k.
--- Kev X450(c) T30 Guru
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2/Jan/2016, 7:34 am
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Revhead Kev
Date Registered: 10-2006
Location: Mona Vale, Sydney, AUSTRALIA
TOTAL POSTS: 6355
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Re: Just bought 2002 X Trail - using oil
Are those compression pressures in PSI ?
Your model Xtrail should have 181.3 PSI standard with a minimum of 153.7 PSI when tested at 250 RPM with a maximum differential between cylinders of 14 PSI.
--- Kev X450(c) T30 Guru
03 Titanium Ti T30 Series 1 **MODIFIED**
My Blog
My CarPC Worklog
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3/Jan/2016, 10:51 pm
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Revhead Kev
Date Registered: 10-2006
Location: Mona Vale, Sydney, AUSTRALIA
TOTAL POSTS: 6355
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Re: Just bought 2002 X Trail - using oil
I would not do anything myself as it could have the dealer argue you have made the condition worse and instead push them for rectification since using that much oil is not a normal condition of the engine and the fault should be rectified under their warranty provisions.
Ultimately they should be pulling the engine down to replace the rings and especially check for signs of loose butterfly screw damage to the pistons.
If they argue about the compression figures then let us know.
--- Kev X450(c) T30 Guru
03 Titanium Ti T30 Series 1 **MODIFIED**
My Blog
My CarPC Worklog
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5/Jan/2016, 10:14 am
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Revhead Kev
Date Registered: 10-2006
Location: Mona Vale, Sydney, AUSTRALIA
TOTAL POSTS: 6355
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Re: Just bought 2002 X Trail - using oil
Sounds great Phil.
--- Kev X450(c) T30 Guru
03 Titanium Ti T30 Series 1 **MODIFIED**
My Blog
My CarPC Worklog
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5/Jan/2016, 10:15 pm
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sheltiephil
X-TRAIL NEWBIE
Date Registered: 12-2015
TOTAL POSTS: 12
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Re: Just bought 2002 X Trail - using oil
Hi Kev and others,
The car dealer has been marvelous, if only others were this good! The sales manager said he was having trouble finding a suitable engine, and offered us a 4 years newer car! It is a beautifully maintained 2006 ST-S 40th Anniversary model - similar mileage, unmarked paintwork, interior, smooth engine, gearbox, clutch, steering, suspension - an apparently sound vehicle with service record up to 150,000 kms. He even transferred the new tyres and unmarked wheel trims from the other Exy. The oil is remaining clear and the level is not going down. Needless to say we are very grateful and enjoying our car. So, thanks for your interest, glad to bring good news! - Phil
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18/Jan/2016, 3:48 pm
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