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Date Registered: 10-2015
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Towing Issue


I have a T31 2012 2.5 CVT model X-Trail and recently purchased a new Jayco Camper Trailer – Dove (weighs approx. [sign in to see URL] tonnes). I figured with the X-Trail being able to tow up to 2 tonnes I would have no issues. I just had a new Nissan tow bar and red arc electric brake put in.

On my first journey there were no issues on the road but my issue is my driveway. It is approx. a 17.5 degree incline (according to a phone app) and inclines for approx 10 meters then flattens off for another 10 (to the back of my garage. It will fit a single car so my plan is to back it up and drive it out.

Basically I can’t get it up my driveway (not due to my driving skills), I’ve got it in 4x4 reverse and pedal to the floor… it just doesn’t have the power to make it up that last meter of the incline. I can’t get a good run off either because it’s a bit bumpy where the road meets the driveway. Am I doing anything wrong… or is it just not up to the task?

It’s 3 years old with only 30K on the clock… I’d prefer not to change it but I’m running out of options.

Is the reverse gear pretty much the same as first gear? I’m assuming I won’t have this issue driving forward, not sure why reverse would cause it?

I'm about to look at winching options but was wondering about the car itself, is there a car mod i can make or some other option i haven't thought of?

Note - I borrowed my neighbors 4x4 triton and I barely needed to touch the pedal, it went straight up and in.

Thanks for any advice,

Phil

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Hi Phil,

I doubt the xtrail is powerful enough to push that type of load in reverse and on such an incline and nope it's not the same as going forward.

You're not doing anything wrong and in fact you don't even need to engage the 4x4 for this, as the AUTO mode will be enough.

If going in reverse is your only option you gonna face problems doing so in an xtrail.


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3 things...
- the Triton is a manual I expect so no slippage from a torque converter
- 1st gear is lower ratio than reverse
- the [sign in to see URL] camper trailer is almost doubling the total weight when coupled to the Xtrail compared to the Triton

Can you tow the boat up the incline forwards in 1st ? If not then don't expect it to in reverse.

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Appreciate the replies.

I guess i can borrow my neighbors car for a while but looks like i have two options

1. Winch - any recommendations? I got a price from [sign in to see URL] on a 240V 10amp electric winch (aus made). one for [sign in to see URL] (the guys said it should do it) or [sign in to see URL] for the larger one which will do it easily. The other thing i need to look at is a recovery point on the back of the Jayco Camper Trailer, I can't see one and called the Jayco guys who said to put it around the axle but that didn't look right to me.

2. Car upgrade - any recommendations? i can spend into the 30ies, would a pathfinder be able to do it or should i go for a diesel 4x4.

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A manual diesel X-Trail.

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Just a thought.
Did you disengage the braking system on the trailer.
At under 2000kg the brakes would probably be mechanical.
IE is it an overide braking system where the mass of the trailer pushes back and applies the brakes?

I tow a 1200kg boat and I have to flip the little thingy over on te trailer brakes when backing up my driveway or the brakes lock making it virtually impossible to back up.

It may no be the vehicle, it could be the trailer brakes.
If you dont flip over the little disengaging thingy, you will not be able to get the trailer up the driveway with even a land cruiser.

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