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Date Registered: 05-2009
Location: Pine Rivers
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How to attach new rated D Shackles to T31 original Tow Bar


I have recently bought a new camper trailer and it has been fitted with safety chains and D Shackles that comply with the new rules pertaining to rated loads and markings. This is really good except that the Shackles are too big for the slot made for them on the original Nissan Tow Bar. The original slots are very narrow and barely fit in the small shackles that come with the tow bar. There is no chance of the new "rated" shackles fitting. I did think of having a couple of rated chain links welded to the tow bar but am not sure whether this is legal although I have read that it complies with the new rules provided that have the link is welded on. Does anyone have any ideas here?

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Date Registered: 06-2008
Location: Blue Mountains, NSW
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You can always weld a couple of bigger steel loops on the towbar, would look a lot better than chain.
What are the shackles rated at?
You could also get lower rated shackles that still may comply.


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Something like $[sign in to see URL]?set_id=880000500F]THIS is much more practical to use with a towbar.

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Date Registered: 06-2008
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He's talking about a trailer Jalal, not a recovery point.

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Sorry my bad, I read the title and thought he was having issues with slotting the D-shackles on the towbar. I missed the trailer emoticon Ignore what I said emoticon

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Date Registered: 05-2009
Location: Pine Rivers
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Re: How to attach new rated D Shackles to T31 original Tow Bar


Thanks guys, I have the shackles rated correctly for the trailer so I can't go down a rating to fit. The actual slot for attaching is ridiculously small and I think I will have to go for something welded to the towbar but I was a bit concerned about the legal side of issues. When read the actual standards are not explicit in this regards and neither are the guidelines for DOT here in QLD. I think as time progresses and the new standards are fully implemented a lot of people will have to adjust both the T30 and T31 towbars to comply. I am going to try and talk t a welder this weekend and see if a fully compliant solution can be worked out.

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Date Registered: 08-2011
Location: Lalor Park, NSW
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Re: How to attach new rated D Shackles to T31 original Tow Bar


What rating shackles do you need?

Not knowing how heavy you camper is I'd say something like from Supercheap would be more than enough.

This is stolen from another forum
Just a point here, apart from the discussion regarding recommendation or requirement...

The rating refered to in the safe towing guide is 1.5 x ATM but this is breaking strength. if you buy a rated bow shackle for towing your trailer, most rated gear you buy is rated with Working Load Limit (WLL) for LIFTING which includes a safety factor (usually 6 or 7:1)

I spoke to some folks yesterday who were trying to cover themselves by buying rated shackles for their van and they could not get shackles to fit as they were treating WLL as equivalent to breaking strength.

By way of illustration, my camper is 1500kg. Most folks are reading that guide and doing this calculation:

1500kg x 1.5 = 2250kg.

Therefore they go and buy 2 1/4 Ton shackles and they don't fit through either the chain or the towbar holes......... Enter hammer links stage left.

However: the shackles I can buy have a 7:1 safety factor built into their WLL according to the manufacturer. Therefore, the stamped rating only needs to be:

1500kg x 1.5 / 7 = 321kg. Therefore a half ton WLL shackle is more than sufficient to meet the "breaking strain" requirement of this guide!!

I expect it would be difficult to convince the overzelous boy in blue about this, especially as the safety factor is rarely stamped on the shackle with the WLL and you'd have to carry a manufacturer's datasheet around with you to demonstrate the point.... is it worth it?

Just highlighting a nuance in the wording of this guide. I was definately written without due consideration for industry realities but what's new eh?


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Date Registered: 01-2014
Location: St. Helens , Tasmania
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Not sure if you guys noticed that the story about police checking for rated shackles etc and are reacting to that story, but it was all a hoax post. There was a statement issued by police from several states about it , and there never was any campaign on towing / shackles. for example : I had a towbar by Hayman Reese recently fitted whilst in Queensland to my X Trail and the shackles that came with it are stamped "Hayman Reese" , I checked up and found these did comply with the requirements and also that the whole story about motorists being fined or put off the road etc. whilst towing vans , boats and trailers with unrated shackles was crap. There was a press release about it at the time by police.

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Date Registered: 01-2014
Location: Brisbane, QLD
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Would you consider Hammer Locks rather than welding on a loop/attachment? They used to join chains so they're rated. 10mm Hammer Locks has a rating of [sign in to see URL] and can take a 29mm pin shackle - more than enough.

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I purchased a set from their ebay store.

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