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Date Registered: 02-2004
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Thanks for the feedback Chris, I guess both the newER ZX10 and GSXR750 (2010 models which am looking for) have come a long way since 1991 and may have completetely different handling perspective. I have to test ride them to see for myself.

While the 1200GS looks like a great bike, it is not the style I am after.

A friend of mine at work has highly recommended the VFR800 (2010 and newer models) as a good mid solution between super sport and touring bikes, so am looking at those too.

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The 2010 GSXR750 is pretty much identical to the K6 that I had, so my comments would still stand. If you want to use it for anything other than trackdays, I'd look at something else. Something a bit like the....

VFR800. I had one of these before the K6, and wish that I'd kept it. Great bike.

Regarding the GS, is it just the style that you don't like, or are you intending to do something that it's not capable of? I still ride mine predominantly in the company of 160+bhp sportsbikes, and it's yet to be left behind. Actually, it's usually leading, but that's another story.

Another observation, which I hope that you don't mind me making. I don't know you, so please don't take offence. Are you seriously looking at moving to a 2010 ZX10 or GSXR750 straight from your current LAMS bike? Before I write 6 paragraphs on whether I believe this to be an awesome idea (you may have many years experience as an international road racer for all I know), I'll wait your response.

In the meantime, have a look at VFR800s - grab a test ride if you can emoticon

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Another observation, which I hope that you don't mind me making. I don't know you, so please don't take offence. Are you seriously looking at moving to a 2010 ZX10 or GSXR750 straight from your current LAMS bike? Before I write 6 paragraphs on whether I believe this to be an awesome idea (you may have many years experience as an international road racer for all I know), I'll wait your response.



No offence taken at all mate, we are here to exchange ideas and views and I would welcome any advise from a more expreienced riders like yourself, as I ave only been riding for 6+ months.

I initially didn't want to grab the 250 as a LAMS bike in fear I would get bored with it pretty quickly and for my size, height and age I reckon the 500 was a better option anyway, but even that is a bit boring now emoticon

At 46 am not looking at spending too much time on the race track either, yet I like the zippiness of sportbikes and what they can do on more adventurous roads like the National Park for example.

Comfort is not really an issue for me as most of my rides are not far and more for fun rather than anything esle, so I don't see myself riding for more than 2 hours max in a single trip.

The GS style is not what I am after because it looks like any other naked bike and I like fared styling....just a personal preference nothing more.

Maybe a 1LT bike is not such a good idea or move from LAMS, so my first preference would be the ZX6R and then the VFR800 and I am yet to ride any of these two. I did test ride the Fireblade 1000RR and it blew my mind but I think it's a bit too much for me!

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Firstly, let me preface this by saying that what you buy and what you ride is none of my business. It’s your money and your skin, and we’re both grown-up enough to make our own decisions.

My opinion, however, is as follows.

Your current bike is making around 34kw of power, so you’re playing with a power-to-weight ratio of about 0.17kw/kg. It should be sufficient to give you a feel for the bike, and enough to get the thing up and going on most roads and in most conditions. A ZX10R, by comparison, is making 0.76kw/kg. That’s about a 450% increase. So far, so good, right?

Not only is a bike with a more relaxed riding position (and less power) going to give you a better feel and control of the bike, but you are also less likely to be approaching a corner at a terrifying speed… and I’m guessing that your riding technique and your cornering is still far from perfect.

If you’re thinking of buying a GSXR or ZX10 because you think that they will make you faster, stop right now. They will not. In most riding conditions you will be significantly slower, more uncomfortable, and infinitely more dangerous than you currently are. The best bike that you could possibly own is the one that you are most physically comfortable on, and if you actually need (and can comfortably use) more than 90kw of power on the road, you should give up the day job and become a professional motorcycle racer. Seriously.

My recommendation – for what it’s worth – is for something along the lines of the VFR800. It will have roughly double the power that you actually need, but it makes it in a way that is a little more forgiving. Dollar for dollar, this type of bike also holds its value far better than the hyper-sports bikes and is a much nicer ownership proposition. It will tour, scratch, and scare you witless. Once you get some feel for the bike, you will be rounding up terrified middle-aged men (and women) riding ZX10s on the Putty road all day long. Believe me, there’s a really good reason why you can buy a nearly new ZX10 for next-to-nothing. As a bonus, you will also find that the VFR has remained largely unchanged since about 2002 - Honda smoothed out the step in the power delivery at some stage during the model run (in about 2008, I think), but I was never really able to notice the difference.

Of all of the really good riders that I know and ride with (and there are many), not a single one rides a litre (or 600 or 750) sportsbike. Not one.

You'll find a few more details regarding my own experience, here.

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Thanks Chris, really appreciate this type of feedback and insight from you, as am pretty new to bikes and apart from doing the online re-search about the possible upgrades come March 2014 when I get my fulls, I don't know much about them emoticon

Can't see myself using 90KW of power on the roads or becoming a professional racer, but I was hoping for something a bit more than 34KW for sure, as the thought of my GS500 screaming its lungs out to get me to where I want isn't fun after a while. I can only imagine what I would have done had I bought a 250 for my Ls emoticon

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Oh something else you might be interested in. Do this course!

http://www.stayupright.com.au/nsw-advanced-i-skill-development-course

It was an eye opener and improved my riding OUT OF SITE! And I've been riding for 20+ years (including my dirt experience. Only 10 years on the road).

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Oh something else you might be interested in. Do this course!

http://www.stayupright.com.au/nsw-advanced-i-skill-development-course




Yep. I'd second that emoticon



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I'll third it too.

It's been nearly 4 yrs since I last rode my bike... But I will be doing that course,
or similar; before I venture back out onto the road again.

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Yeah thanks but the location of the course is too far from my place to do a full day one. I would have to look for something closer

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Here's one at Marulan, which should be closer to your place.
(I think you are in the shire???)

http://www.toprider.com.au/Pages.asp?PageID=42


**I just spotted the price, but if it saves you, it is worth it.**



Eastern Creek.
**Cheaper.**

http://www.toprider.com.au/Pages.asp?PageID=43

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