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Date Registered: 05-2013
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4WD not engaging


Hi Guys

I have been following this forum since I got my first issue with my xtrail and would appreciate some insight on this.
I found out with a bang (by getting stuck while sune driving) that my 4x4 auto and lock is not engaging. when I turn the 4x4 dial everything lights up as normal and no warning or malfunction lights.
I have a T30 model. Any help would be appreciated. Will a self-test be the first step in the right direction?

Thanks for a great forum!


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Hi Chris,

Are you making sure that the car is completely stopped before you engage 4WD Lock?

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Hi Jalalski

I did try that but no luck. What I have tried the last couple of months:
1. Check all fuses under steering column and under hood. all okay.
2. Took it to a shop to get the the computer tested for issues. none found.
3. Took it to another shop onto a lift to check what happens once the 4wd is engage.
Everything seems to work up until the shaft reaches the coupling in the back.
There was an electrical connecter close to the coupling that we tested and did not look like we got any currant through when engaging 4wd.

Now from what I have read and the tonne of printouts I made from every pdf I could find online. there should be a controller for the 4wd system behind the glovebox. Will this be my next check?
With this electronic system does one still have to come to a complete stop before engaging auto or lock?

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You will need to check the 4WD Relay and see if any of its wires came loose.

This diagram will show you how the system operates, so you know what to trouble-shoot:

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You also need to check all 4 ABS/Wheels sensors, to see if any of them is damaged, but usually a faulty ABS sensor will trigger a fault in the ECU and you should get a flashing light in the dash.

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First thing to do Chris is tell us what you mean by "everything lights up as normal".

The 4WD indicator and LOCK indicator have particular combinations which will tell us if things are normal or what might be wrong.
The system can diagnose if there is an open circuit in your 4WD electric coupling or your 4WD relay is faulty or one or more of your wheel ABS sensors are faulty and show you with these lights, so an exact explaination for both Auto mode and Lock mode will help greatly.


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Hi guys

Okay Ive added two images. One with my key in the ignition(4wd illuminates). And the second one i started and turned the 4wd lock on. (Auto and lick illuminates).

http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae332/Chris_En_Nadia_Burger/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps65582f92.jpg

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OK Chris, the 4WD indicator bulb is functioning (lamp test when ignition on) and the other indicators are showing correctly for LOCK mode engaged.

Now, if you drive normally in AUTO mode for about 10 mins, does only the Auto mode indicator stay on or does something else happen ?

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Hi Kev

The Auto stays on as normal. No other bulbs illuminate.
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It seems as though everything is OK.
Are you sure 4WD was not working on the beach that day and that there were no flashing lights or lamps not illuminating ? Just because you got bogged does not mean your 4WD was not working, especially if the sand was deep and soft.

Only suggestion I have at this stage of diagnosis is to check the resistance measurement of the 4WD solenoid in the rear electric coupling. If it is OK it should be about 2.45 Ohms.

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Thats the problem. Everything seemed fine until i got stuck that day.
The 4wd is definately not engaging. When i accelerate on a stretch of gravel. My front wheels spin and thats it nothing from the back. It does seem that there is no current coming from the front. But that brings me back to my previous question. Where does that charge come from. The 4wd/abs controller from the (previous diagram) seems to make sense.any idea where the controller is located?

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