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Date Registered: 10-2005
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The point I'm trying to make is that I've been getting the tyres serviced according to the Bob Jane/Yokohama "Long Life Tyre Plan". I take them in and get them rotated, and aligned if needed, every 10,000km per the booklet. As far as I'm concerned they're supposed to have been rotated.

IF they've been rotated at each tyre service (not car service) then shouldn't they have all worn evenly?

These Yokos are about my fifth set of tyres. Three sets of Toyos and 1 set of CS4s. In the past I've always made sure I got my tyres rotated on time, and get them looked at 2 or 3 times in between just to check. All my tyres have worn evenly, with the exception of my second set of Toyos where I missed a 5,000km rotation by 2,500km and they'd worn so badly I only got about 15,000km out of them. That made me ultra-aware of not going over the due kms.

So maybe the question is, did someone not do their job properly?

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Date Registered: 06-2008
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Well if you paid somebody to do this then you are dead right, nothing has been done.
The rear tyres look new compared to the front.
I would still argue the case though.

TIP.
Next time you get a tyre rotation done, mark the front tyres only with crayon (just a lttle mark, nothing too obvious).
Opposite the valve is a good spot near the rim.

This way you know your not getting done over.

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I would agree with Cooch - rear never been on front and front look normal for two tires which have always been on front ie probably never actually rotated.

No harm done in the sense no acceleration of wear ie you got value from your two front tires - you just need to replace those two.

My worst EVER tire service, alignment and balance experiences have been at Bob Jane.

They have a long road before I'll EVER trust them again. I bought my Yoko's from them because they had the only set left in Aus. at the time. I understand there is probably a difference between the various franchises.

For alignment and rotation I go to a place where I can watch and know I can trust them eg "Light Wheel Alignment" in Adelaide CBD and Nisscare or Lakeside Nissan for other stuff.

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 . . . All my tyres have worn evenly, with the exception of my second set of Toyos where I missed a 5,000km rotation by 2,500km and they'd worn so badly I only got about 15,000km out of them. That made me ultra-aware of not going over the due kms.



Sounds like my second last experience with Bob Jane - full of sweetness and care at the front desk with total con and manipulation of my experience out in the workshop making ME feel I had done something wrong (in your case missing a rotation by 2,500kms - what rubbish). It can be interesting if you actually walk around to the usually hidden work area and WATCH what happens.

If you only got 15,000kms out of a set then that has nothing to do with rotation and everything to do with either aggressive driving style or poor quality tires or swapped tires (by the tire place) or severe out of alignment (which your current tires don't show signs of) - who was aligning your tires then???. Rotation only spreads the wear (which occurs mainly at the front wheels) over the set of 4 tires - not reduce wear.

Those current unrotated tires presently at the front have given Great mileage if they have done around 47,000kms. If the rears have also done the same kms then they are wearing great as well.

For me, I would reconsider my trust in your current tire "dealer" emoticon

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Thanks guys, it does seem that might be the case, that rears never rotated with the fronts. But what can I do, they just keep telling me that 47,000 is pretty good, completely missing the point that they should all be worn out together if they'd been rotated properly.

On the bright side, I guess at least the outlay for tyres from now on will only be $500 at a time instead of $1000 at a time. It will be interesting now to see how many kms I get out of the rears.

How does the exy computer cope with having differently worn tyres? Does it take it in it's stride?

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You won't even notice the difference Julie.

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Date Registered: 12-2011
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Thanks for contributing your experiences, everyone! I've ordered a set of 4 Yoko AT/S from the ever-helpful blokes at Springwood Tyres (Bob Jane in Penrith practically refused to sell me AT/S, keen to get rid of some HT's or something).

I'll let you know how they go! Hopefully they arrive, ready to be fitted before Christmas! emoticon

Cheers,


Lisa.

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Thanks Tony, just need the re-assurance.

Lisa, sorry to have hijacked your thread, but hope this has helped.

These are great tyres, and I'll continue to buy them. I do a shopping trip to Cairns or Tableland every fortnight, and there's about 18km each way of gravel road in varying states of repair/disrepair (political situation). They are perfect for the usage I give them.

They are a go-anywhere tyre.

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Date Registered: 03-2010
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Hi Lisa, can you please advise what size AT-S tyres Springwood Tyres ordered for you. A tyre place I rang up trying to source a set of 225/60 17s for me rang up Yokohama who advised a wait of at least 3 months on the set. Did you order the 215/60 17s and if so are you able to disclose the price they charged?
Marty

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Hi Marty,

They've ordered 215/60/17s and they are charging $320 each. I think that might be a bit over-priced but I know they'll do a good job and will rotate them and balance them from time to time as well. The guy did mention that the tyres on the current shipment are now all spoken for, as there was only something like 20 in that size altogether, so I guess maybe it's a while between shipments?

Cheers,

Lisa.

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