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Date Registered: 07-2011
Location: Southern Finland
TOTAL POSTS: 68
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Re: WARNING - Not all CV drive shafts are compatable with Xtrail


Well, I finally managed to find a compatible aftermarket replacement driveshaft. Changed my front left half shaft to an EMPI 80-4665 which is an a Nissan Maxima/Altima [sign in to see URL] 6MT shaft assembly. The part (without freight) was cheaper than a genuine boot from a Nissan dealer in Finland and should be stronger in terms of power/torque.

The ABS ring on the aftermarket shaft has the correct number of teeth (44) and they seem similar enough to the OEM one. I have now driven about 250kms on the new shaft and can report that my 4WD system is working correctly, no problems whatsoever. And believe me, this time of year in Finland I would definitely know if there was a problem with it. emoticon

The only issue I can report is a slight shudder under strong acceleration at low speeds. I believe this is due to some structural differences in the inner CV joint and the fact that my X-Trail is lifted. Probably the same thing that Kev experienced with the incompatible shaft and basically a CV angle issue. Or it might be due to the new shaft lacking the "dynamic damper" rubber bit.

Note that since my X-Trail is a diesel, the front left half shaft is shorter than the petrol models. Auto vs manual might also have something to do with the lengths of the shafts. If anyone of you have X-Trail driveshafts lying around, could you post the fully compressed lenght of the shaft here? There might be a longer Maxima/Altima shaft (AT model, 80-4671) compatible with the petrol/AT X-Trails.

I took pictures from both shafts and the install, will post them here later.

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Date Registered: 07-2011
Location: Southern Finland
TOTAL POSTS: 68
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Comparison between OEM X-Trail shaft and aftermarket Maxima/Altima shaft:
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Inner joints/splines: (note that the aftermarket joint doesn't have the square shoulders of the OEM joint, giving more options with boot replacement)
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Outer joints/splines:
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Date Registered: 07-2011
Location: Southern Finland
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Popped the shaft in the diff
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Wheel/hub side, going in there
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Date Registered: 12-2012
Location: Newcastle, NSW
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anyone know if an alignment is needed after CV replacement?

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Date Registered: 08-2012
Location: Blue Mountains NSW
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if you are talking about front CV then potentially needing alignment depending on how it's done. The lower ball joint and potentially the tie rod ball joint need to come off, but the tie rod adjustment could be left and as long as the lower ball joint sat in exactly the same position there should be no need to re-do an alignment.

That said if i was replacing axles (about to do the front RH one on mine shortly - reco driveshaft was $120 ex GST exchange from Sydney Driveshafts at Kings Park) i'd probably take it to a tyre place afterwards to get it aligned as I have not had a 4 wheel alignment in a while

Rear axle would definitely require realignment of the rear wheel as the radius rod and other connecting bits come off to allow the driveshaft to pop free

When I do mine I am going to try to get some crown nuts for the front and see if they fit as well - seems someone, probably my mechanic, has fitted crown nuts on the rear locknuts, will do the same up front for a little more piece of mind besides the whopping 294Nm on the lock nut

BTW does anyone know if when doing the RH driveshaft which is connected to the side shaft whether the shaft can just be disconnected from the sideshaft leaving the sideshaft in the vehicle? I assume it can from the diagrams and the way it bolts up but just wanted to be sure. If i leave the sideshaft in and just remove the 5 bolts then i don't have to worry about damaging the seal or leaking oil etc

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Date Registered: 07-2011
Location: Southern Finland
TOTAL POSTS: 68
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BTW does anyone know if when doing the RH driveshaft which is connected to the side shaft whether the shaft can just be disconnected from the sideshaft leaving the sideshaft in the vehicle? I assume it can from the diagrams and the way it bolts up but just wanted to be sure. If i leave the sideshaft in and just remove the 5 bolts then i don't have to worry about damaging the seal or leaking oil etc



You definitely can leave the sideshaft in the car, I replaced mine in the way you mentioned.

Now I know that you don't have the diesel T30 in Australia, but since there are also members from other parts of the world, I thought I should mention that the shaft is compatible between petrol and diesel models up to the flange where you bolt it to the sideshaft.

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Date Registered: 07-2011
Location: Southern Finland
TOTAL POSTS: 68
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if you are talking about front CV then potentially needing alignment depending on how it's done. The lower ball joint and potentially the tie rod ball joint need to come off, but the tie rod adjustment could be left and as long as the lower ball joint sat in exactly the same position there should be no need to re-do an alignment.

Rear axle would definitely require realignment of the rear wheel as the radius rod and other connecting bits come off to allow the driveshaft to pop free



Actually, it's possible to replace both front driveshafts without disconnecting the lower ball joint or the tie rod.

Also, I think disconnecting the rear radius arm is not necessary. I haven't done this myself but a mechanic replaced a rear wheel bearing on my X-Trail with the hub still bolted to the car. The radius arm wouldn't come off with any reasonable amount of force so they chose to do it that way. That means the rear driveshaft could also be replaced without disconnecting the radius arm.



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Date Registered: 08-2012
Location: Blue Mountains NSW
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Thanks Henri - will see how I go. I think if there is enough play in the shaft to remove the plated end from the sideshaft end then I shouldn't need to remove the tie rod or ball joint or even the brake caliper... but I will see how I go on the weekend emoticon



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Date Registered: 08-2012
Location: Blue Mountains NSW
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OK did the driveshaft swap out that way, just disconnected the driveshaft from the sideshaft, removed the strut mount bolts and moved the steering rack till i had enough space to pop the driveshaft out (bit of $^&$ing around there!) then popped the new one in, bolted it all back up and took her for a spin... YAY no more CV ticking

tip - use a screwdriver in the rotor vents to stop the hub turning

Gave me an excuse to by a new 250lb torque wrench and axle stands emoticon

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Date Registered: 03-2012
Location: Newcastle, NSW
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Well done, mate. Nothing beats the feeling of a succesful DIY mechanical venture.

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